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high elevation break in? (HELP!!!)
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:18 am
by wyatt89
i have a serious issue that has me paranoid. i moved from texas to wyoming (the elevation changed from about 400 to 7900) and my car has been running like crap since then, is there a period of time that the car takes to get used to the much thinner air?do i need to have my ecu reset or will this problem correct itself?i have been running premium gas and i have always put synthetic oil in it.please help me!!!
Re: high elevation break in? (wyatt89)
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:46 am
by Raven
To reset the ECU just disconnect the negative battery terminal for about 10-30 minutes. 7,900 ft. is pretty high, it's about a mile and a half. The premium gas won't help unless you're driving a Vibe GT. What you're lacking is oxygen.
Re: high elevation break in? (wyatt89)
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:16 pm
by djb383
What do you mean by "runs like crap"? At that elevation your down to about 99hp from 130hp.7900 X .03 X 130 / 1000 = 30.81 less hp than at sea levelhttp://
www.offroaders.com/info...m.htm
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:28 pm
by wyatt89
its a gt guys...
Re: (wyatt89)
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:52 pm
by djb383
The formula still works - your down about 43hp.
Re: (djb383)
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:57 pm
by wyatt89
>_so the vibe just lost all its (removed)? is there anything i can do (besides somehow make the air more dense) to get some power back?i have a k&n drop in but it doesn't do much...
Re: (wyatt89)
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:26 pm
by joholste
supercharge...honestly elevation is the reason superchargers and turbochargers were invented...to help combat the loss of oxygen of planes in the WW2 era. one example being the p38 lightning...and another being the Boeing B27 bomber... they wanted the planes to be able to fly higher...so to combat the loss of oxygen(and loss of hp there of) they had to force more air in. maybe i shouldn't say invented...but more applied to gas engines.
Re: (joholste)
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:42 pm
by wyatt89
its a gt, i dont want to spend 5k for a celica supercharger
Re: (joholste)
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:42 pm
by djb383
Actually, the supercharger was patented by Francis Roots in 1860, some 80 years before WWII. The GM Vibe supercharger is a roots type/design.
Re: (djb383)
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:10 am
by wyatt89
i personally like prochargers as my bro has one on his camaro ss, that thing sounds sweet i dont think that is a roots type, i think it is called a centrifugal supercharger but i may be wrong...i wish i could put one on my gt though
Re: high elevation break in? (wyatt89)
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:26 am
by VivaVibe
Quote, originally posted by wyatt89 »...i moved from texas to wyoming (the elevation changed from about 400 to 7900) and my car has been running like crap since then...do i need to have my ecu reset or will this problem correct itself?Years ago, when I moved from FL to the mountains in Utah, elevation 10' to 6500', I was told the car needed to be taken in to be retuned due to the difference. (not a Vibe) Not sure if that holds true with the newer cars though. Also, the octane level is lower in the mountains. Consider that I was a flat lander going to a frequent up or down hill environment which required adjusting my driving style.
Re: (wyatt89)
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:35 am
by djb383
Hey, if you got enough money to throw at, that V8 in your bro's SS will likely shoehorn right in to your Vibe. If a Viper V-10 can be squished into a PT Cruiser, then a GM small block would surely fit in a Vibe. Now that would be fun.
Re: (djb383)
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:31 am
by wyatt89
someone crammed a v10 into a pt cruiser @_@but its front wheel drive, it would like blow up and never move

Re: (wyatt89)
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:20 am
by djb383
Not when you put a 6 speed and a furd 9" behind it. The only thing that blows up is rear tires.
Re: (djb383)
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:26 pm
by wyatt89
do you have a link? that sounds pretty funny!
Re: (wyatt89)
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:52 pm
by djb383
Re: (djb383)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:37 am
by wyatt89
@_@i feel sorry for that car...
Re: (djb383)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:44 am
by Raven
That PT Viper Pickup is wicked. There's a company that does 426 Hemi PT's as well. I think they are mid-engine though.
Re: (Sunny)
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:35 am
by djb383
An elephant in the middle. Now that's just too cool.