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Hold your wee for a Wii.

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:03 am
by redlava
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16660273/I think somebody is in trouble.

Re: Hold your wee for a Wii. (redlava)

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:39 am
by drunkenmaxx
eh, the lady signed a release.on a side note, what happened to the "i hate my stupid wife" thread?

Re: Hold your wee for a Wii. (redlava)

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:53 am
by silver_vibe
Quote, originally posted by redlava »http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16660273/I think somebody is in trouble. ColonelPanic mentioned the "water" incident on 1/15/07 over here http://forums.genvibe.com/zero...age=2crazy.

Re: Hold your wee for a Wii. (redlava)

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:30 am
by VforVIBE
it just wasn't worth it Quote, originally posted by drunkenmaxx »on a side note, what happened to the "i hate my stupid wife" thread?I was wondering the same thing... I hope she saw it.

Re: Hold your wee for a Wii. (VforVIBE)

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:41 am
by Sputnik
Quote, originally posted by VforVIBE »it just wasn't worth it I was wondering the same thing... I hope she saw it.I think we've had enough discussion over people's marital issues in this thread. Lets get back to discussing the Wii, shall wii? Thank you.

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:26 am
by northvibe
I cant belive she would hold it that long...i mean even I know that if you hold it to long its bad although this game might of not been the best idea as it can hurt health.... good thing walmart let me use the bathroom when i was camping for the wii :D

Re: Hold your wee for a Wii. (Sputnik)

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:34 am
by VforVIBE
Quote, originally posted by Sputnik »Lets get back to discussing the Wii, shall wii? Wii shall

Re: (northvibe)

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:39 am
by Sputnik
Quote, originally posted by northvibe »I cant belive she would hold it that long...i mean even I know that if you hold it to long its bad although this game might of not been the best idea as it can hurt health.... good thing walmart let me use the bathroom when i was camping for the wii :DI can't hold it that long. I see a bathroom and use it. I hate not being near a bathroom, even if I don't have to go. I might have to go and knowing where the loo is keeps me happy. I would never even attempt to compete in such a competition. After all these Wiis will eventually be as easy to get as the XBox360 is right now.

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:50 pm
by drunkenmaxx
they played the tape from that radio show this morning on rover's morning glory. it was weird to hear the lady talking just to think she died from that comical bit. they were saying she looked pregnant from all the water. she drank like 2 gallons.

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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:32 pm
by ColonelPanic
Cool, it's turned criminal. Go get those suckers, sheriff! http://www.npr.org/templates/s...53006The family is suing, hope they take those idiots at the radio station for all they're worth. I fricken hate commercial radio... Surprisingly, this wasn't a clear channel station. http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-6151589.html

Re: Re: (ColonelPanic)

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:23 am
by redlava
Quote, originally posted by ColonelPanic » I fricken hate commercial radio... Surprisingly, this wasn't a clear channel station. They should be arrested and/or sued just for playing the music that they do.

Re: Re: (ColonelPanic)

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:58 am
by Merzbow
Well I'm sure not many people know that you can die of water poisoning that fast. I didn't. And it's a wonder why the economy is so bad, because people keep suing eachother. Suing them isn't going to bring back the girl so now they are just taking advantage of the situation. I don't even think the DJs should go to jail. It was a really stupid game but honestly, I'm pretty sure hey didn't want that to happen, nor intend for it to happen, after all, we are only human.Maybe we should all sue Nintendo because their new system's name mimics the english word we sometimes use to describe private parts? If they wouldn't have named their system the Wii than this would have never even happened right?Sometimes an individual's stupidity should be considered before automatically blaming someone else.

Re: Re: (Merzbow)

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:13 pm
by drunkenmaxx
amen merz! they didn't put a gun to the lady's head and make her drink it!howard stern did this bit quite a while back. this ladies death, to me, was a one in a million shot.how about these radio stations that have you do stuff like drink people's vomit to get concert tickets. that seems more dangerous to me.people need to stop pointing the finger. the lady was dumb enough to do it. she signed a freaking waiver. story over.

Re: Re: (drunkenmaxx)

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:05 pm
by TJinPgh
truthfully, I think the only type of person something like this could happen to is somebody who has either had congestive heart failure, or is likely to anyway.As a general rule, water is a rather innocuous substance. Especially bottled water. The body will typically shed nearly all of whatever excess water it takes in, regardless of how long it is held.The normal, healthy person has a far better chance of losing bladder control than dying this way, I gotta think.But, Merz is right. Today, lawyers are just looking for things to sue over. A result of there being far too many of 'em, IMHO.Truthfully, barring getting an ultra liberal jury (well, that was California, I suppose), chances are the radio station would have won the suit. But, the bad publicity and legal fees would have been ridiculous.This is why we need a very simple form or torte reform. LOSER PAYS.But, that's a topic better left to the Asylum. So, I digress.

Re: Re: (TJinPgh)

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:31 pm
by mspalmer
I'm sure the reason she died is not because she held the water in her bladder. Once it is in your bladder there is really only one place to go, the water wouldn't be re-absorbed from the bladder into the body. The kidneys would do the entire job of reabsorbing or filtering water. I'm guessing she probably died due to hyponatremia. I'm guessing her total body sodium was diluted to a lethal level causing some central nervous system swelling as water is shifting intracellularly and causing cerebral edema. Additionally other cells in the body could lyse due to all the extra water. My 2 cents, anyway.I'm not a doctor (but I play one on web-sites ) However, I do work in the medical field.Mike

Re: Re: (mspalmer)

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:27 pm
by TJinPgh
no, I wasn't suggesting she died because her bladder was too full. Kind of the opposite.I was suggesting she died because her body absorbed too much of the water instead of passing it through (to the bladder), as would be typical.People who have had congestive heart failure have this problem. I'm sure other conditions could cause it as well.My point was she probably had some pre-existing condition that, combined with the excessive amounts of water, caused her death. She may not have even known.

Re: Re: (TJinPgh)

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:45 pm
by redlava

Re: Re: (redlava)

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:42 am
by Katscan
Well the problem I have is that someone called in and warned them about water intoxication and they all laughed and made fun of her.....whose laughing now?She was complaining of having a headache and feeling lightheaded on the show, to me they should have taken her to the hospital, esp after another listener called in and told them about water intoxication. THAT, imho is why I feel they should be made criminally neglagent. So the frek what that they signed a stupid waiver, does that waiver say "I shouldnt care about you cause you signed this form"?

Re: Re: (Katscan)

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:58 am
by Merzbow
Well I was not aware of that fact, IF it did happen. If someone did call in and say that, how many average people would in fact take it seriously? Not too many...just say that out loud and think about it. "water intoxication". It doesn't even seem like a real thing, just some made up sickness.BTW, waivers basically do mean "I don't care what happens to you, we are not liable" in an indirect way. That's the whole purpose of them. However, in defense of hte girl, not many people would sit there and come up with every single possible outcome to the situation.

Re: Re: (TJinPgh)

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:05 pm
by mspalmer
no, I wasn't suggesting she died because her bladder was too full. Kind of the opposite.I was suggesting she died because her body absorbed too much of the water instead of passing it through (to the bladder), as would be typical.People who have had congestive heart failure have this problem. I'm sure other conditions could cause it as well.My point was she probably had some pre-existing condition that, combined with the excessive amounts of water, caused her death. She may not have even known.My apologies, I didn't read your post closely enough.Mike

Re: Re: (Merzbow)

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:07 pm
by Kari
The NPR article CP linked above says that someone called to warn the DJs about it and they laughed and said they were aware of it. That is probably why they are now being charged with criminal negligence.I agree that I had no idea this was even possible and that she probably had a pre-existing condition that worked in conjunction with it or made it worse...I mean, who would have thought that the substance you are supposed to drink "plenty" of would kill you if you drink too much? But if they were aware of the risks and laughed it off...that's just not right.

Re: Re: (Kari)

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:12 pm
by mspalmer
I believe this has happened fairly recently with some fraternity hazing incidents. Since the universities were cracking down on alcohol abuse, it was figured that this was a safe alternative. I remember a couple incidents in the last couple years but don't remember which universities.Thanks,MikeAgain my apologizes to TJinPgh, didn't read your post closely.

Re: Re: (Kari)

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:21 am
by Merzbow
I doubt they would conduct such a contest if they "knew" that it could happen. Obviously they would have considered the fact that they would lose their jobs and be prosecuted if they did...then again maybe everyone at the studio was equally stupid? (removed)....mspalmer, that is one reason why I hate 95% of frats and serrorities with a passion....who the heck wants to "earn", so to speak, friendship with a group of idiots? Not saying all of them make you go through the abussive initiation process but Im referring to the ones that do.ANYWAYS, sorry for the off topic remark, I just have strong opinions on some things

Re: Re: (Merzbow)

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:38 am
by Kari
Quote, originally posted by CP's NPR Article »SACRAMENTO, Calif. January 19, 2007, 3:51 a.m. ET · As participants in KDND-FM's water-drinking contest chugged bottle after bottle, a listener called in to warn the disc jockeys that the stunt could be fatal."Yeah, we're aware of that," one of them responded.Another DJ said with a laugh: "Yeah, they signed releases, so we're not responsible. We're OK."Those comments, and others made during the Jan. 12 "Morning Rave" radio show, appeared to give little regard to the risk of water intoxication. But just hours after the contest, a woman who guzzled nearly two gallons was dead.

Re: Re: (Kari)

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:44 am
by drunkenmaxx
if i go bungee jumping and sign a release, then die as a result, that's too bad. why should this be any different?

Re: Re: (drunkenmaxx)

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:48 am
by Kari
I was just showing where the DJs said they were aware of the risks, that's all. I made no further statements either way. I'm not really sure how I feel about the whole thing.

Re: Re: (Kari)

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:00 pm
by drunkenmaxx
i wasn't directing necessarily towards you. the way i see it, the lady was made aware of the dangers, assuming she read the crap she signed.so, in my mind, you get nothing, good day sir!

Re: Re: (Kari)

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:45 pm
by Merzbow
Ok. I couldn't imagine someone saying anything like that but if that's how they said it than I gues they are a-holes. But as long as they had them signa waiver than they shouldn't be held liable. Now that I think about it, you're right, they had to of known something could happen like this otherwise, why even have them signa waiver right?I don't trust media though so that could be made up hahahhaha BTW Drunken, that tree to the right of your car in the sig makes it look like you have skinny lamborghini doors

Re: Re: (Merzbow)

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:08 pm
by Kari
I think NPR would be pretty safe to trust, perhaps one of the safest... If indeed they did say it the way the story says...then I'm sort of flabbergasted by the DJs' callousness about the whole thing. I don't know that this means anyone would win a court case or that anyone should, but it just surprises me that they could find it so funny that they are subjecting other human beings to death, waiver or not. That's all.

Re: Re: (Kari)

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:02 am
by Merzbow
Yeah that's exactly why I'm questioning whether or not that happened. I can't imagine anyone laughing at something like that if they truely knew about it or knew it could happen. I bet the DJs really didn't know and they thought the caller was joking so they made a joke back?

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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:15 am
by Mase
Call me insensitive, but I don't think anyone should get sued for a suicide.In the way this is going, we're soon gonna have to all sign waivers before we eat at McDonald's, buy 2liter sodas, or get a pastrami burger from Carl's Jr.I wish I knew what I know now back when I was a kid. I would've sued my parents for making me get sick off eating my carrots just so I could have ice cream afterwards.

Re: Re: (Kari)

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:30 am
by Psychobroker
Quote, originally posted by Kari »I think NPR would be pretty safe to trust, perhaps one of the safest... If indeed they did say it the way the story says...then I'm sort of flabbergasted by the DJs' callousness about the whole thing. I don't know that this means anyone would win a court case or that anyone should, but it just surprises me that they could find it so funny that they are subjecting other human beings to death, waiver or not. That's all.That is what was said. I, too, heard the recording, the call in, etc.From what I heard, the caller identified herself as a nurse...that's pretty bad to blow her off.The DJ's were a couple of negligent *******es, but I don't think CRIMINAL is the word to use. If anything/anyone was criminally negligent, it was the radio STATION for allowing such a contest in the first place.Oh, and a contest waivers are CRAP when the contest is inherently dangerous. I'd like to see a copy of it.

Re: Re: (Psychobroker)

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:45 am
by satur9
sue nintedo ? it could have very well been hold your pee for a x box 360. glad i waited 16 hours in line like the sane people. lol. but seriously its sad but i fail to see how its anybodys fault but the lady's. you could die from a lot of crap on fear factor but people still do it and that craps far more inherently dangerous. even if the dj's announced to the crowd " that you could possibly die from drinking to much water" i doubt few if any people would have quit. i bet you could die from a pie or hotdog eating contest.even the hand on a car contest you could die from heatstroke,dehyration, etc. why dont we ban them all.redicolous.she signed a waiver. too bad! and i hate to sound mean. but stuff happens