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Mac + Windows!!!

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:09 pm
by tnpartsguy
http://forum.parallels.com/thread5997.htmlThis is a machine I could come to love....a mac pro book, running this would be my dream come true!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:15 am
by WaveAction
pretty cool..i didnt wanna read it all tho lol, besides if I had the money My computer would be gone, the one i want is like $8000 or so

Re: Mac + Windows!!! (tnpartsguy)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:19 am
by millster
I've been running Parallels at work for a few months now and it's great. When I got my new Mac (moved from a 20" iMac to the new 24") all I had to do was connect the two together with a Firewire cable and use the migration assistant to transfer all of my applications and settings to the new machine. My Windows "hard disk" and everything transfered seamlessly!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:05 am
by northvibe
I love how you can run windows on mac, BUT the only thing is parallels "emulates" windows, so it does NOT take full advantage of the video ram etc. that is all emulated so its not the full speed windows can run. so if you use it just for basic things yea it will work great. but if you want to game you need to run bootcamp. There is a free parallels like program rEFIT you can boot multiple OS's.http://refit.sourceforge.net/

Re: (northvibe)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:09 am
by millster
Not technically true! Parallels does not emulate anything in that no code is being translated or any hardware being "faked" through software. Everything is native. The issue stems from the fact that Mac OS X is using the hardware at the same time as Parallels. It's more tricky to take full advantage of hardware acceleration when you don't have dedicated access to that hardware.That said, they're working on it and the version that introduces 3D acceleration is currently in Beta (and is linked in the article above).

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:29 am
by northvibe
well yea not really emulating, its like virtually running it. faking is a good word but it will never be able to fully utilize the hardware when its already being used by os x

Re: (northvibe)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:07 pm
by jwalcik
Quote, originally posted by northvibe »well yea not really emulating, its like virtually running it. faking is a good word but it will never be able to fully utilize the hardware when its already being used by os xnot yet, but the parallels folks are definitely working on it. i've had a macbook pro since release, and i've been running parallels since their first beta. currently, i've got an XP and an Ubuntu virtual machine running in addition to OS X. Other than the lack of 3D acceleration, things are silky smooth. in any virtualized environment you'll always give up a bit of performance, but when the virtualized environment is supported at the hardware level, the loss is minimal. the difference with vista (and it's 3D accelerated GUI) will probably be more noticeable, but for the few things i need windows for, it will be negligible.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:35 pm
by northvibe
Im deff not trying to bash it, just making sure people know its not going to be some gaming windows environment. Even with bootcamp theres some driver issues. but this just makes buying one computer to be able to run windows in a virtual or its own environment amazing! Im excited and happy that apple did this, now I just need a mac pro.....

Re: (northvibe)

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:19 pm
by jwalcik
Quote, originally posted by northvibe »Im deff not trying to bash it, just making sure people know its not going to be some gaming windows environment. Even with bootcamp theres some driver issues. but this just makes buying one computer to be able to run windows in a virtual or its own environment amazing! Im excited and happy that apple did this, now I just need a mac pro..... the gaming is still the big thing that parallels can't do. they claim it's coming, but i'm not sure how necessary it is now that they've added support for booting a bootcamp partition. years ago, when i first started using linux, i kept my windows partition as a crutch. on the occasions when i'd reboot to the other OS, i'd spend half an hour installing patches, have to reboot again to get things up to snuff, and then finally be able to do whatever it was i'd swapped OSs for. this was a vicious, frustrating cycle. when VMware came along and could run the other OS as a guest, i could keep both windows and linux running all the time, both up to date, and have the option of giving either full access to the full hardware. with parallels supporting bootcamp partitions, you can now get that same setup with either xp or linux.