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Rear wiper - spray or dribble?

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 9:09 pm
by RobTheEnchanter
Hey guys!I've been lurking here for a while, but I figured I'd go ahead and register so I can post messages too. I've got a Shadow two-tone Vibe with the Power and M&T packages. Just crossed the 500 mile mark yesterday, and I just got the car about 2 weeks ago Anyways, a quick question.. My rear wiper sprayer kinda dribbles out wiper fluid instead of spraying it like the front wiper. Is this normal? Also, is there a separate tank for the rear wiper fluid, or does it pump it out of the main tank in under the hood?Oh, here's a link to a picture of my car, taken the day after I got it: http://www.cgcoffee.org/images/mycar.jpg Thanks!Rob

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (RobTheEnchanter)

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 9:25 pm
by Triton
Welcome! Congratulations on your new Vibe. Yes it is normal for the rear washer to stream out, not spray. I haven't checked to see where the resevior is for the back, but I am sure that it is under where the lift gate opens up. I'm almost sure that it does not come from the front tank. It would be strange to run a hose the entire length of the car to the back.

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (Triton GT)

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 9:31 pm
by Sub-Vibe-R
Welcome to GenVibe.We talk about this few time beforeThis is the way the rear nozzle works and there's 1 tank for windshield washer fluidUse the SEARCH fonction and you'll find a lot of infoThis is some of the previous topichttp://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=2156http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=1913http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=895

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (Sub-Vibe-R)

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:08 pm
by RobTheEnchanter
quote:Welcome to GenVibe.We talk about this few time beforeThis is the way the rear nozzle works and there's 1 tank for windshield washer fluidUse the SEARCH fonction and you'll find a lot of infoThis is some of the previous topichttp://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=2156http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=1913http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=895Actually I did use the search before I posted, but I didn't get any results. Maybe I didn't search for the right words..Anyways, thanks for the info -- I was just hoping I wouldn't have to get something fixed already Rob

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (RobTheEnchanter)

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:18 pm
by Sub-Vibe-R
All depend what word you put and if you ask to search this world in the title or in the post.Anyways, we are here to help

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (RobTheEnchanter)

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:23 pm
by NovaResource
Yes, the rear sprayer does that normally. I complained at first but the past few days I've been using it alot because of the snow and it actually works fine. It clears the window for me.There is 1 tank for washer fluid (in the engine compartment) that feeds both the windshield sprayers and the hatch sprayer.

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (NovaResource)

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:30 pm
by Triton
1 tank?! That seems like a strange, but practical design. All you have to do is refill the one tank. I wonder where they run the line at in the car? Anyways, I know now. Thanks NovaResource and Sub-Vibe-R for the information. That old saying still holds true, "You learn something new everyday."

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (Triton GT)

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:37 pm
by esjones
I have a GMC Safari minivan with a rear window wiper/washer, and that car has only one fluid reservoir also. I agree that the dribbling rear "sprayer" is lousy. I took mine into the dealer, and they adjusted what passes for a nozzle so that it at least hit the window instead of piddling down on the road behind the car. They said that all Vibes dribble, not stream in the back. (Sounds like a personal problem to me.) - Earl

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (esjones)

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:49 pm
by NovaResource
quote:I have a GMC Safari minivan with a rear window wiper/washer, and that car has only one fluid reservoir also.My 2002 Chrysler Voyager minivan (and the 1999 Plymouth Voyager before that) has one tank for both also.

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (RobTheEnchanter)

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 11:14 pm
by Mr. Poopypants
Welcome. I do agree that there really should be a spray for the rear wiper, but unfortunately I am not a Vibe engineer. They do listen in here so maybe we can have them change it for future Vibers.

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (RobTheEnchanter)

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 2:12 am
by NSimkins
quote:Actually I did use the search before I posted, but I didn't get any results. Maybe I didn't search for the right words..For future reference, some Search tips:http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=913

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (silverawd26)

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 5:17 am
by Vibe Rater
The design of the rear washer on the VIBE is a better design that the way rear washer nozzles used to be set up. The VIBE rear washer nozzle is above the window and the liquid is sprayed down onto the window. The old way of putting the nozzle below the window and spraying up, did not work well at all. The upward sraying nozzles had a chronic problem with poor aim and would often spray too low or too high on the glass, sometimes even spraying over the top of the vehicle, making it useless. The downward spray is ideal by comparison. It uses gravity to move the fluid, instead if fighting against it. The rear sprayer on the VIBE is not absolutely perfect, but it could be a lot worse. I think sometimes we lose sight of the fact that the VIBE is a value priced vehicle, not a luxury type vehicle that they can spend lots of money on to make everything perfect. For the price, I think the rear wiper works well.

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (Vibe Rater)

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 10:09 am
by Lorin
My 91 Eclipse GSX had two tanks. Twice as many to check at maintenance time. I remember the spray would miss the window if you weren't moving, but if you were at highway speed it didn't work either.

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (Lorin)

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 11:46 am
by GT Guy
Its nice to have this forum as many of my questions and concerns have been answered right here such as the rear window washer dribble. Thanks all

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (silverawd26)

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 3:42 pm
by Stang2Vibe
quote:see, my moms villager has 2 tanks, one in front and one in back, and this works out great, great power!!!!!!!!! Moms van is a 1998 and the spray assembly is located at the top. Ford has some design flaws, but I see this one was a positive one.Actually, the Villager was made by Nissan. It has a Nissan 3.0L engine in it. Basicly the Villager and Nissan Quest are identical like the Vibe and Matrix.

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (Triton GT)

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:11 am
by baltimore17
quote: I wonder where they run the line at in the car? Just be careful where you nail in the picture hangers when you decorate the inside of your Vibe

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (silverawd26)

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 5:14 am
by OttawaVibe
quote:Actually ford and nissan got together and made both minivans, but I knwo what you are saying, comparing Apples with Apples and not Apples to Banana's (didn't want to say oranges). The 3.0 engine is a Ford Engine.*** Not in the Quest/Villager. This is Nissans motor(Maxima, 300, Pathfinder)***There is a standard 3.0 engine and then there is the 3.0 dual over head cam 24 valve. **Again Nissan Motors**Ford Ranger and Mazda B Series.***These 2 vehicles are the same mechanically. They are Fords...2.3L, 2.5L,3.0L and the 4.0L. *** My uncle is a head engineer for Ford, and most of my fmaily hae Ford products.***Poor You?*** I also have worked on a Quest during the Skills Competition when I was in High School. Had 3 years of auto, but graduated College Prep and has dual enrollment at a local commuity college when I was still in High School also. **Then you worked on a Nissan motor**Older Ford Rangers had the 2.9 V6 and came out with the option of a 3.0 V6 in 1990 I believe. The Villager and Quests came out in 94 I think, is the earliest, maybe 92, but one of those 2 years I am sure upon. So that is the proof.***Not exactly..It was 93...Very close*** Like my 2002 Ranger I have now, I have a 2.3 dual overhead cam 16 valve in it and it is rated like at 132 horses.**Mazda rates theirs' at 143?** The new Mazda 6, yes I know Ford owns Mazda, the uses the 2.3 dual cam 16 valve but the output is like 30-40 horsies more and the Mazda 6 is a 2003 model.***Actually it's rated at 160HP...This motor has VVT(Like the VIBE )...This is probebly a different motor*** My engine in the 2002 Ranger was the new version of the 2.3. Because there was a older version of the 2.3 , actually 2 of them, some were used in Tempo's and such. But some of them had 2 spark plugs per cylinder( Ranger's 2.3). Anyways, too much to go into, but you get the gist of it.

Re: Rear wiper - spray or dribble? (Triton GT)

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 4:29 am
by mu_ohio
quote:1 tank?! That seems like a strange, but practical design. All you have to do is refill the one tank. I wonder where they run the line at in the car? Anyways, I know now. Thanks NovaResource and Sub-Vibe-R for the information. That old saying still holds true, "You learn something new everyday." The line runs down the passenger side under the rocker cover. I found an odd looking clear hose when I was installing my XM Radio and realized later what is was.