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WATER AS FUEL!!!

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:46 am
by zionzr2

Re: WATER AS FUEL!!! (zionzr2)

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:53 am
by Mrizzle05
sounds intriguing... looks like something for the oil companies to think about when they raise the prices of gas more.And its safer for the environment.

Re: WATER AS FUEL!!! (Mrizzle05)

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 3:30 am
by NascarXprt
well water never worked for me the other day.

Re: WATER AS FUEL!!! (NascarXprt)

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 3:36 am
by drunkenmaxx
Quote, originally posted by NascarXprt »well water never worked for me the other day. dude, you have to put it in your gas tank, duh!

Re: WATER AS FUEL!!! (drunkenvibe)

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 3:44 am
by NascarXprt
i though i was doing something the wrong way thanks for correcting me drunken

Re: WATER AS FUEL!!! (NascarXprt)

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 1:56 am
by ProtonXX
I got a water converter this week & so far results have been good.

Re: WATER AS FUEL!!! (Mrizzle05)

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:39 am
by TJinPgh
Quote, originally posted by Mrizzle05 »sounds intriguing... looks like something for the oil companies to think about when they raise the prices of gas more.And its safer for the environment. Well, sort of. I don't suppose it's worth pointing out that water vapor is the most prevalent greenhouse gas in the world.Something never talked about in environmental circles.The concentration of water vapor in the atmosphere can be as high as 4%. The concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is approximately .03%.Not that I care, mind you. Just saying that water vapor is a far more hazardous greenhouse gas than CO2. It's just that it's not humanly possible to do anything about it. The amount of water vapor capable of being generated mechanically compared to what occurs naturally is, literally, a drop in the bucket.At any rate, the videos were very interesting. As pointed out, it's not new technology. It's been around for ages. It's just now that we're figuring out how to do it in an efficient way.As i said in the "others" forum about air powered cars, there are already alternatives out there to gasoline. We just need to refine them a little.$4/gallon gasoline may just be the catalyst that gets the public on board with some of these.

Re: WATER AS FUEL!!! (TJinPgh)

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:27 am
by joatmon
news this week is that a Purdue engineer figured out that an aluminum/gallium alloy will split water, making hydrogen on demand. Basically, water and aluminum gallium gives hydrogen and aluminum gallium oxide, eventally uses up the metal.It should be interesting to see where that leads. Maybe someday cars will fill up a tank with water, and have replaceable catalyst packs.But that dihydro-oxiygen is nasty stuff, will kill you if you breath too much

Re: WATER AS FUEL!!! (joatmon)

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:28 am
by drunkenmaxx
we made hydrogen in chemistry by mixing aluminum and hydrocloric acid. neat stuff, especially since to test success, you had to light the gas!

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:43 am
by KNINE
Great. We'll convert all American cars to run on water. Then we'll have severe drought all across the country and environmentalists will have something new to cry about. "We're killing the fish!" Then global warming will be good thing, because we'll have something to do with all that water from the melting ice caps.

Re: (K-NINE)

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:50 am
by joatmon
Quote, originally posted by K-NINE »Great. We'll convert all American cars to run on water. Then we'll have severe drought all across the country and environmentalists will have something new to cry about. "We're killing the fish!" Then global warming will be good thing, because we'll have something to do with all that water from the melting ice caps.no, when all those california cars start putting out steam instead of smog, it will drift east and turn the desert into a garden. Then the right wing loonies will freak out over all the immigrants needed to harvest the new bounty

Re: (joatmon)

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:11 am
by KNINE
Quote, originally posted by joatmon »no, when all those california cars start putting out steam instead of smog, it will drift east and turn the desert into a garden. Then the right wing loonies will freak out over all the immigrants needed to harvest the new bountyLMAO

Re: (joatmon)

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 12:59 pm
by silver_vibe
Quote, originally posted by joatmon »no, when all those california cars start putting out steam instead of smog, it will drift east and turn the desert into a garden. Then the right wing loonies will freak out over all the immigrants needed to harvest the new bountyI assume you meant illegal immigrants...I don't know anyone left, right or loony freakin' out over immigrants. Seriously, it would be awesome if they can get hydrogen from sea water (California has enough trouble providing fresh water to it's ever growing population).

Re: (silver_vibe)

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:47 pm
by TJinPgh
Quote, originally posted by silver_vibe »I assume you meant illegal immigrants...I don't know anyone left, right or loony freakin' out over immigrants. Libs like Joat always like to blur the lines between the two Quote »Seriously, it would be awesome if they can get hydrogen from sea water (California has enough trouble providing fresh water to it's ever growing population).My only question is what happens to the impurities from the water if deionized water isn't used.Somewhere along the way, you're gonna need some sort of inline deionizing filter so that all that's going through the electrolytic component is pure water. Otherwise, you're going to have to be cleaning the electrolytic plates constantly.It would be far easier to simply put external filters in place so the water is purified at the source.

Re: (TJinPgh)

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:26 pm
by KNINE
Quote, originally posted by TJinPgh »Libs like Joat always like to blur the lines between the two My only question is what happens to the impurities from the water if deionized water isn't used.Somewhere along the way, you're gonna need some sort of inline deionizing filter so that all that's going through the electrolytic component is pure water. Otherwise, you're going to have to be cleaning the electrolytic plates constantly.It would be far easier to simply put external filters in place so the water is purified at the source.I suppose people could have purification filters at their homes, much like home water softeners. I like the idea of filling my tank from the garden hose every morning. I'm open to the idea of alternate fuel sources as long as they're cheap. I'm not so quick to bow down at the alter of Al Gore, but I do have better things to spend my money on than $3.00 and rising gasoline.

Re: (TJinPgh)

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:07 pm
by joatmon
Quote, originally posted by TJinPgh »Libs like Joat always like to blur the lines between the two haters like TJ always have to turn it personal.

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:08 pm
by kostby
But with the rising demand, 'Big Water' will begin cutting back production and raising prices, leading to water shortages, long lines at the water stations, sabotaging water pumps, people shooting each other waiting in line, civil disobedience, riots, and military occupation of every creek in America.Welcome to the future. You are the people your parent's warned you about!

Re: (joatmon)

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:32 pm
by TJinPgh
Quote, originally posted by joatmon »haters like TJ always have to turn it personal.It was a joke, dude. I'll assume your response was as well.Incidentally, with respect to the steam comment. I could see how that could be a valid concern. Although, I would think it wouldn't be too difficult to design some sort of condenser into the muffler so the output is actual water rather than steam.

Re: (K-NINE)

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:35 pm
by TJinPgh
Quote, originally posted by K-NINE »I suppose people could have purification filters at their homes, much like home water softeners. I like the idea of filling my tank from the garden hose every morning. I'm open to the idea of alternate fuel sources as long as they're cheap. I'm not so quick to bow down at the alter of Al Gore, but I do have better things to spend my money on than $3.00 and rising gasoline. Realizing, of course, that back when gas was $1 Al Gore proposed taxing it to the level where it was either $4 or $5. So, Al Gore's only real problem with the current gas prices is that it's not the government that's getting it (although, virtually every state in the country has increased it's fuel taxes by at least 25% in the last 5 years).

Re: (kostby)

Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:39 pm
by TJinPgh
I'm in Pittsburgh. Water water everywhere. I've got no problem walking about a half mile with a couple of jugs.A deionizing filter will remove whatever crap is in those rivers.