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Whys is it no one can propperly torque the lug nuts properly???There is no need to put them on so tight with that Blasted air wrench that it takes a Blasted air wrench to get the lugs off!!!If they warp my rotors I'm gonna be pissed!!Sorry I need to vent!! NO One in this blasted town seems to be able to perform secheduled maitnents to my simple specifications. FOLLOW THE MANUFACTURES TORQUE SETTINGS!! I'd love to do it all my-self but my lease forbids it!!!!!I need to move to a place i can afford and have my own garage again!!!!

The studs sheer off easily if over-torqued. 75 lbs is recommended.

Yeah you'll snap off a stud sooner then you will warp a rotor. I wouldn't advise torqing over 90lbs but I do believe 75-78 is recommended. It should also be in your owners manual.

Pretty sure the manual says 76lbs actually... that's what I've been using

And if fears of overtorquing weren't enough, there's always the chance that they'll chew up the lug nuts... I've found the lug nuts for the alloys can get rounded off reeeeal easy. I've already had the dealer replace one that they screwed up. And when I switched to my winter tires, I ended up finding most of them damaged to some degree thanks to the tire shop and/or the dealer over the years. It was a miracle some even came off. A total of five were unusable after removing them, so I had to go to the Toyota dealer and stock up thanks to other people's carelessness and/or incompetence. I probably should have fought it and got freebies but I didn't feel like it.Quote »I'd love to do it all my-self but my lease forbids it!!!!!I need to move to a place i can afford and have my own garage again!!!!I'll say! Sounds like you live in a place like a coworker used to live... They'd rip you a new one if they caught you filling up your fricken windshield washer reservior. I guess they're trying to prevent stuff like what goes on here from happening, there's a 1980's vintage Camaro in the back that hasn't run in years, and I swear the people who used to live across the hall would put a new set of shocks on their truck every week. But those guys did things right, they didn't leave any evidence of what they were doing after the fact. I guess the people who weren't so courteous are the reason that this stuff is against the rules. AutoZone had too many people out there changing oil or whatever and making a mess everywhere in their parking lot that they've basically made it their policy that you can't do anything with your car there. They'd probably come out and yell at you for changing out a bulb on their premises.

I had some tires installed last October and then about 6 weeks ago I was working on my Vibe. I had to remove the wheels, but I broke my torque wrench meter because the shop WAY over torqued the lug nuts. The meter went to 150 lb/ft but broke as it went way past 150lb/ft! Then, once I removed the lug nuts, the wheel was stuck on the hub from being way over torqued. It took a few minutes of wrestling the wheel off and I finally got it. I took it back to the shop, talked to a manager about it. They retorqued the rest of the lug nuts to spec and paid for a new torque wrench. Now I know the next time I ever have someone remove my wheels to make sure they torque them to only 76 lb/ft. I always do my own rotations, so rarely do others touch my wheels.

Is the torque on the wheels(75 lbs).is that for the steelies or for the aluminum ones???I have my aluminum one sat 90 lbs on all four right now......am i to tight?

Quote, originally posted by Vibe_dude »am i to tight?>NO DRUNKEN! bad! leave him alone!

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik »Yeah you'll snap off a stud sooner then you will warp a rotor. oh ya? i've got the story and the old rotors in my garage to prove otherwise! (thanks no less to a 'certified GM Technician' HA!)

Quote, originally posted by Altus »Pretty sure the manual says 76lbs actually... that's what I've been usingYou've got to be kidding. quibbling about 75 -78 lbs, show me a torque wrench that can read 1 lb and I bet it cost you $300.00. Give me a friggin' break. post post post post post post post post

Quote, originally posted by Atomb »oh ya? i've got the story and the old rotors in my garage to prove otherwise! (thanks no less to a 'certified GM Technician' HA!)well each with their own experience I suppose. In my own when I worked for GM I saw them break off first.

Quote, originally posted by drunkenvibe »>NO DRUNKEN! bad! leave him alone!Hey!!! behave, we'll send you to genvibe timeout!

O.K. I check torque at our truck plant and as far as I know the automakers from Japan have been using the metric system for a lot longer than GM and when I Check the torque on the lug nuts, statically on the trucks its 135 to 155 NM. and dynamically its 150 to 170 NMnow looking at a converion chart 76 FT.LBS is close to 102 NM which to me seems a little weak to me, seems like it should be around 120 NM or at least 90 FT LBS any way.just my $.02

Quote, originally posted by Sunny » show me a torque wrench that can read 1 lb and I bet it cost you $300.00. or more. The one I use at work measures down to .01 difference between x and y NM

Either way I should be able to remove the lugs by usuing the supplied lug wrench without having to throw out my back and still not having the lug turn loose.My manual says 76 ft-lbs. SO why are these wrench monkeys torquing well over 100 ft-lbs. I'm gonna go try again to re torque my lugs my-self. From now on I'll do my own rotations.And after any inspections or brake work. I'll have to re torque my-self too... Unless by that time i have my own place to do my own work, and I can get some help doing my own brakes when that time comes.

had to get a new lug wrench to get my lugs off. Its a folding lug wrench. Its basically a cross wrench with two of the arms that can fold in, so you can actually stow it away easily under the rear deck lid. My arms sure got a work out today. Then I got to give my Torque wrench a work out.All my lugs are now torqued properly.

you sound relaxed too.