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Found it on ebay just wanted to know what you guy thoughthttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1

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and?????? whats the verdict crap or goooooo

I am wondering the same this, I noticed today that there are a few car shows on T.V. recomending them (I.E. Truck universe on the Spike network)

I even saw this thing at the local pep boys... but it doesnt look like it would do much if anything for performance or gas saver

Well, let's look at this thing differently...GM, Ford & Chrysyler design, manufacture and sell small, fuel-efficient cars so they can meet CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standards while selling large numbers of highly profitable gas guzzling, higher polluting SUVs & trucks.Now ask yourself this: If the $2 worth of materials used in this piece of junk could really increase fuel efficiency even by 1%, wouldn't the Big 3 already be using it? It would effectively eliminate the need to sell so many less-profitable small cars, since they could implement "The Tornado" in their higher margin mid-size & SUV sales, maintain CAFE fleet standards, and be more profitable.IMO, it's pure crap...ranking right up there with those $139 turbo's listed on Ebay. But hey, "creating a spinning, vortec of air" sure sounds really groovy, so donate your money to them if you feel so inclined.

yeh but if u really think about it the big "three" can do more to improve more on gas milage, they just don't want to spend the money to impliment it, I mean if the others like honda are able to come so far with alternative fuels and better gas why arn't they, I think there is alot more they can be doing, but they won't do it unless they invent it themselves, and not from a aftermarket company.

Yes, the Big 3 can (should) be doing more...But we're talking about $2 worth of simple materials, not billions of dollars into research, development and procurement.The thing is a piece of junk.

Back in the early `90's when these types of products were just coming out, we tested the "Tornado" one on 4 different cars while I was at Turbo magazine. They wanted to advertise, and I said we need to test these before we let them advertise in our magazine.The results: Only one car (an older early `80's Blazer) got a 1mpg improvement, and only due to the fact it had a very long and straight intake pipe. All the other 3 cars we tested, not only lost mpg's, but actually lost some horsepower too!Conclusion: They are only useful if used on very early cars that have long and straight intake pipes. Otherwise, it's all hype!P.S. While in charge of advertising for Turbo magazine, we never let those people run an ad in our publications unless we could run our evaluation test along side it (which they asked us not to do!).

I wish more shows and magazines did that, but you never know which stuff actually works and what doesn't. nice to hear there are some decent marketers out there