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Surplus of laws; shortage of common sense

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:27 am
by jake75
Subway Rider Busted for Selling a TokenFrom Associated PressDecember 09, 2005 12:45 PM EST ATLANTA - Transit police handcuffed and cited a man who sold a $1.75 subway token to another rider who was having trouble with a token vending machine.Transit authority spokeswoman Jocelyn Baker said Friday that the officer "acted within the law" after he spotted Donald Pirone, 42, selling the token Nov. 30 inside the West End subway stationInstead of giving Pirone a warning, the officer decided to handcuff him and give him the misdemeanor citation under a 1992 state law that bars passengers from selling Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority tokens, she said."What you've got to keep in mind is that fare abuse is a chronic problem," Baker said. "It costs MARTA millions of dollars every year."Baker acknowledged that Pirone sold the token at face value and did not make a profit. But the law is the law, she said."There are customer service phones for people who are having trouble getting tokens out of the machine," Baker said. "The fact is, our officer acted within the law."As for the handcuffs, Baker said the officer felt they were necessary."Our officers do that for their own safety," Baker said.There was no answer Friday at a phone listed to a Donald V. Pirone in Atlanta. Pirone told WSB Radio that he was just trying to help a fellow passenger out who was having trouble with a token machine."I gave him a token and, I guess out of his generosity, he gave me the money for it," Pirone said. "But I didn't ask him for money."

Re: Surplus of laws; shortage of common sense (jake75)

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:48 am
by Mavrik
are there signs posted about not selling your tokens? I've taken the subway before but in MTL so everything was in french

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:38 am
by zionzr2
no good deed goes unpunished!

Re: Surplus of laws; shortage of common sense (Mavrik)

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:47 am
by Kari
I think there are some signs to that effect in the NYC subway system, usually near the token machines, cautioning you to not buy fare cards from anyone except a transit worker in a booth or from a machine, and telling you that buying a swipe is illegal. But that doesn't stop people from doing it. There's a lot of people standing near the machines looking for tourists and they just say in a really low and casual voice, "Only $1 for a swipe."

Re: Surplus of laws; shortage of common sense (Kari)

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:05 am
by mcgusto82
the law shouldn't be above common sense. the guy wasn't scalping. doesn't mention of the guy doing it before. he gave up his PAID seat to somebody else for what he paid. i hope the guy sues.

Re: Surplus of laws; shortage of common sense (silverawd26)

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:34 am
by jake75
A lot of times I think those guys holed up in that cabin in Montana a few years ago had a good point!