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Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??"

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:57 pm
by DiveNut
The latest Consumer Report gave the Vibe a Recommended rating in the Tall Wagon Class. ...Tall Wagon?

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (DiveNut)

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:31 am
by Mavrik
They haven't seen our lowered ones then lol... and I don't consider mine tall even when it was stock height.

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (Mavrik)

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:55 am
by millster
Quote, originally posted by Mavrik »They haven't seen our lowered ones then lol... and I don't consider mine tall even when it was stock height.It's not a question of ride height though.They're referring to interior height or the often noted head-room. In that case, it is a tall wagon.

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (Mavrik)

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:00 am
by BlueCrush
The Vibe is more like a mini suv that a tall wagon. The Pacifica would be a tall wagon.

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (BlueCrush)

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:49 am
by Mavrik
Well in that case, glad I got a tall one, I love the headroom.

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (DiveNut)

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:50 pm
by viberationz
I fallow everyone else here... Tall Wagon is pretty silly - Makes my Vibe sound pathetic, Ha! I don't classify it as a wagon - I like the Small SUV thing better. Who modifys a wagon... seriously? (Best not say too much or I will be over-loaded with modded wagon pics!)

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:52 pm
by ragingfish
Having gone to a G6, and then having a Vibe back for the rental, I can say that yes, the Vibe is definitely tall at stock height...I never noticed it before because I was used to it. Tonight I put the Vibe in the garage, I was like "damn I forgot how high that car is!"

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (DiveNut)

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:34 pm
by joatmon
http://www.theautochannel.com/....htmlsome various quotesQuote »CR tested the Mazda5 against the Pontiac Vibe, Chrysler PT Cruiser, and Chevrolet HHR. The Vibe and PT Cruiser earned “Very Good” overall scores, while the HHR received a “Good” score....Based on the excellent Mazda3 small sedan platform, the Mazda5 is styled like a minivan complete with sliding rear doors, but it is smaller than a conventional van. With seating for six in three rows, the vehicle offers some of the flexibility and versatility of a traditional minivan in a more compact package. The Mazda5 Touring ($22,615 Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price as tested) is powered by a 157-hp, 2.3-liter four-cylinder engine that delivers adequate acceleration but lacks reserve power for passing, climbing steep grades, and carrying a full load. The four-speed automatic transmission is smooth and responsive. Braking performance was very good overall. The interior is spacious and airy. But the third-row seat is useful only for small children—and then only if both second-row passengers move their seats forward.The Pontiac Vibe and its twin, the Toyota Matrix, are tall wagons based on the Toyota Corolla. The Vibe’s compact dimensions, versatile interior, and good fuel economy make it a handy, nimble, and economical runabout. But a flawed driving position and a boomy engine detract from the vehicle’s overall performance. The Vibe is also the only vehicle in this group available with all-wheel-drive. The Vibe ($19,960 MSRP as tested) is equipped with a 130-hp, 1.8-liter, four-cylinder engine that provides adequate acceleration. The four-speed automatic transmission downshifts energetically and makes the Vibe feel responsive. Braking was very good overall. The 60/40-split rear seats easily fold in one step for extra cargo room. With the rear seats folded, the Vibe holds 26.5 cubic feet of cargo.the 5-speed Pontiac Vibe is rated at 30 city/36 highway, while the Mada5 5-speed is rated at 22 city /27 highway,(US miles per gallon for the 2006 model year, per fueleconomy.gov) I know to a lot of you power is king and most important, but 33% is a significant difference to me, and quite a Vibe incentive. I mean, that's why I bought a Vibe in the first place.I know some here have complained about it, but i have never found the Vibe's driving position to be "faulty"

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:23 pm
by Pick
I've never heard of the tall wagon class, and as much as i hate to say i drive a wagon, that's exactly what this car is, denying it doesn't change that FACT lol

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:42 am
by IMakeVibes
A tall wagon, hmmmmmm. Maybe we should start putting tall faux wood paneling on our tall wagons.

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (DiveNut)

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:43 am
by GMJAP
"Tall Wagon" makes sense to me. It's essentially a wagon version of the Corolla, but with the roof jacked up about 8 in. and a higher driving position. Hence, a tall wagon....

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (GMJAP)

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:41 am
by ZubenElGenubi
Vibe: 62.2" tallMagnum: 58.3" tallYep; it's a tall wagon alright.

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (DiveNut)

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:09 am
by Gandalf
I *like* the driving position in my 'tall wagon'; even though I'm pretty short. I like sitting up a little highr than 'average' for a subcompact, or compact car. Gives better forwrd visibility. When I drive my Toyota Celica, it feels like my (removed) is about 6" above the road, in comparison.I *still* don't get where CR gets the 'boomy engine' bit. This is the quietest car I've ever owned, and I constantly find myself going 10 MPH over the speed limit, due to how quiet and smooth the ride is. Maybe compared to a fullsized luxury car with a pushrod V8, the enging is 'boomy', but for a small 4 cyl., I think it's very quiet.As for tall: it's considerably taller than the Honda Civic Wagon my Vibe replaced; by about 6" at the very least. But hey: tall mean more room inside.As I've said before, I expect to see more cars that look like 'little SUV's' in the near future. It's a very useful design inside, while getting decent mileage.

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (Gandalf)

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:13 am
by GMJAP
Quote, originally posted by Gandalf »I *still* don't get where CR gets the 'boomy engine' bit. This is the quietest car I've ever owned, and I constantly find myself going 10 MPH over the speed limit, due to how quiet and smooth the ride is. Likewise. Maybe they're used to testing sedans that are a bit more "upscale"? The engine does get loud when taken to high RPMs; maybe that's what they are taling about. But I never drive at high RPMS....Quote, originally posted by Gandalf »As I've said before, I expect to see more cars that look like 'little SUV's' in the near future. It's a very useful design inside, while getting decent mileage. I think the more general term is "crossover", and all car makers have a bunch in the design chute to start coming out over the next few years.

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:46 pm
by ToolGuy
My Insurance called my Blazer and Jeep Cherokee, Station Wagons like my Vibe and PT....

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (DiveNut)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:06 am
by TRDman
I'll have to agree. Four doors, FWD, hatch, a "reconfigurable" interior and 30 MPG? What SUV does 30 MPG? Maybe you could call it a hatch, but other than that I'd have to say: wagon. (I consider crossovers wagons with creative ad campaigns; in my opinion, the Vibe, which has no ad campaign, is a wagon)

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (viberationz)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:48 am
by Mavrik
Quote, originally posted by viberationz »I fallow everyone else here... Tall Wagon is pretty silly - Makes my Vibe sound pathetic, Ha! I don't classify it as a wagon - I like the Small SUV thing better. Who modifys a wagon... seriously? (Best not say too much or I will be over-loaded with modded wagon pics!)lots fo Subaru Legacy GT wagon or Impreza WRX wagon owners modify their wagons And I refer to my Vibe as a 4 door hatch and not a wagon... in my mind I see a long big ol boat on wheels when I hear the term "wagon"

Re: Consumer Report Rates Vibe "Recommended" in the "Tall Wagon Class??" (DiveNut)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:28 am
by viberationz
Considering it's a "TALL WAGON" it's still a hot one wagon... Wagon makes me feel like a Mom... from the 70's.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:11 pm
by jasonvibe
"Tall mini wagon" is surely a Honda CRV. But I guess CR was sleeping when they were researching. But maybe they were only looking at ones where you don't "climb" into. I personally would stay away from the new Mazda5 till someone proves to me it does not have a Ford engine. Ford has had a 2.3 engine for years and it is a piece of junk.

Re: (jasonvibe)

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:44 pm
by Vinlandr
Sorry to cast raise dead on that topic but did not want to start a new one. I bought my 2006 vibe last year based on 3 things:1) Reliability2) I wanted a car that would have a nice cargo suitable for a big dog3) And importantly that would be overall higher than a typical sub compact/compact.I use to drive a manual 1996 Honda Civic EX.Since I now got chronic lombalgie/scoliosis issue, to sit DOWN in a car and to get out of it could be painful sometime. I have a tendency to sit very far from the steering too; not good when constantly shifting with left leg from urban driving.Since I bought that Vibe all I can say is wow, perfect height (yeah I keep it stock) much less back issue and after 16 years of driving manual cars, its automatic now.I like the fact I don't feel like sitting DOWN in the car; I don't really feel like climbing in it either, its like the perfect height for me.I better use these notorious 2 inches gap for my benefit over the coolness factor.Anyone feels the same regarding the height of this car?

Re: (Vinlandr)

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:13 pm
by CAMOGIRL
Yeah I agree on the height, it's part of why I chose the vibe. I would agree with those calling it more of a mini suv, I moved from a cherokee into the vibe and do not mourn for space. I do hate to call it a wagon, instead I refer to the body style as a hatch. I did almost kick my nephew (same age as me...not child abuse) when he first saw it he said "what is that, like a little van or something?"

Re: (CAMOGIRL)

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:12 am
by jake75
Buying a Vibe was a matter of habit - I always order a "tall one".

Re: (CAMOGIRL)

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:03 am
by KITT222
Quote, originally posted by CAMOGIRL »Yeah I agree on the height, it's part of why I chose the vibe. I would agree with those calling it more of a mini suv, I moved from a cherokee into the vibe and do not mourn for space. I do hate to call it a wagon, instead I refer to the body style as a hatch. I like to call it a hatchback as well. Since America doesn't sell too many REAL hatchbacks, as they do in Europe, I guess there isn't a class for them. Insurance companies think of the Vibe as a station wagon. I just embrace it, since I do like wagons and hate SUVs.

Re: (KITT222)

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:09 am
by csxt8058
I prefer hatchback as well. The Malibu Maxx I had before I got my Vibe, to me was also a hatchback, but I heard and saw the name 'station wagon' mentioned a few times in regards to the Maxx. JR

Re: (KITT222)

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:12 am
by Vinlandr
Well basically its a Corolla Hatchback isn't it ?But that insurance companies consider it a "boring" wagon I have absolutely no problem with

Re: (Vinlandr)

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:26 am
by jake75
I saw a BMW 5 series hatchback at the grocery store today. If I were into spending big $$$ I might like that.