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Cluster assembly question

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:25 am
by Pawel
Will 2005 cluster assembly fit a 2003 vibe??The assembly i'm looking at is from base vibe and i drive a gt. Please i need help on this. Thanks

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:38 am
by ragingfish
If it's a base cluster and your car is a GT, then the 05/03 debate is pretty much null. You can't put a non-GT cluster in a GT.

Re: (ragingfish)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:45 am
by Pawel
I really don't know much about clusters, but what's the difference between non GT and GT cluster? I believe that except for different suspension set up, rear disc brakes and engine, the rest is the same??

Re: (Pawel)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:48 am
by ragingfish
Quote, originally posted by Pawel »I really don't know much about clusters, but what's the difference between non GT and GT cluster? I believe that except for different suspension set up, rear disc brakes and engine, the rest is the same??You have a higher rev limiter and your speed limiter is higher.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:00 am
by northvibe
also the GT badge

Re: (Pawel)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:08 am
by joatmon
Quote, originally posted by Pawel »I really don't know much about clusters, but what's the difference between non GT and GT cluster? The speedometer is calibrated differently between the base and the GT to deal with the different gearing between the base and the GT. There was a thread here somewhere, someone with a GT had a base cluster put in by the dealer and the speedometer was always off.The speedometer meter itself is swappable, but I do not know if the difference in speedometer readings is due to a difference in the meter movement or in the circuitry that drives the meter movement. It is possible that swapping speedometers between clusters would solve the difference in calibration between the base and GT clusters, but it is also possible that it would not help at all.I do not know if the tachometer itself is different, it may be. It is possile that the tach signal feeding the tach is the same so the base tach would accurately display the GT RPMs, but I do not know if that is true.The rest of the lights and stuff should be the same. (although if the speedometer is off, the odometer is probably going to not count the miles accurately either)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:10 am
by ragingfish
I think he wants to put an 05 cluster in an 03 GT actually...And I believe the redline is higher on the GT then on the base, no?

Re: (ragingfish)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:39 am
by joatmon
looking at cluster pics in cars on ebay, the tach is different between the two clusters, but I don't know if it would display accurately. I do like the look of the newer clusters better though.

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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:48 am
by northvibe
dang it i wish i knew how to drive a stick...Gt envy;)couldnt you just swap a 04+ gt gauge to the 03? if all you want is the white/red instead of red/red colors

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:55 am
by ragingfish
Yes, he could.I suspect he has easy access to an 05 GT cluster (ebay perhaps?) and that's why the question was posed.Just a guess though.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:07 am
by northvibe
ah, he was just looking at the base one. yea just do GT to GT.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:10 am
by ragingfish
BTW Joat...That top cluster needs gas...

Re: (ragingfish)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:59 am
by drunkenmaxx
Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »BTW Joat...That top cluster needs gas...yeah, and close the damn door on both while your at it!

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:13 am
by northvibe
and check your engine!

Re: (northvibe)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:15 am
by ragingfish
Quote, originally posted by northvibe »and check your engine! Ignition is off in the bottom one. Look at the tach.

Re: (ragingfish)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:12 am
by joatmon
finehere is another. I put gas in the GT, started the base, closed the doors, and even fastened the seat belts. Left the parking brake on in the GT though

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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:17 am
by ragingfish
Another fine photochop by joatmon.

Re: (ragingfish)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:37 am
by Pawel
ragingfish, you are correct. I have a 03 GT with that ugly pontiac red cluster, which is ok during night time driving but really sucks during day time (DRLs are off & auto headlights) . And I want to swap it for the 04 or newer cluster. The guy from ebay didn't respond yet, so I guess we will see....thanks everyone for such a quick response.

Re: (Pawel)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:39 am
by joatmon
There has been one on ebay repeatedly for $0.01, but with $125 mandatory shipping cost. Even if that was a great price, I wouldn't buy from anyone who has to be devious in their ebay listings. Hope it's not the same guy.

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:25 am
by Jahntassa
Nevermind the 20 MPH difference in the speedo

Re: (joatmon)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:36 am
by GMJAP
Quote, originally posted by joatmon »finehere is another. I put gas in the GT, started the base, closed the doors, and even fastened the seat belts. Left the parking brake on in the GT thoughThe base seems to have a bad battery, though. (yank-yank)

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:47 am
by ragingfish
I believe you'd be referring to the engine temp?