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I'm trying to help my girlfriend get out of her very unsafe 93 neon thats having al lot of problems and she likes the Nissan Z roadster which there is only one at any dealer in the area and none driving around which is good since she is like me and hates driving a car that there are 10000000000 of on the street next to you. Sooo I'm wondering if these are a good reliable car? I don't wanna get someone I car about in a car thats unsafe or problem prone.

its a great car, but it a sports car so its not so good in bad weather. DEFINITLY not a winter car

Yea she normally rides with me in bad weather. It looks to be a durable car but looks can be deceiving as i found out with the car i had before my vibe. i guess the best thing for me to do would probably take it out for a drive and see how it handles once doc tells me i can drive.

That's a heck of an upgrade... 12 year old Neon to that? To be honest, if I was looking for a "safe" vehicle, which it seems that you are, I wouldn't have a sports car anywhere on my shopping list. They may hold up fine in accidents for all I know, but they're still a sports car. And with that sports car comes an increased risk of accidents- which car would you want to drive faster? The Neon or the Z? IIRC, you guys are pretty young, right? if so, insurance is absolutely going to be brutal on the Z. If I was in your situation, I'd try to find a safe, reliable vehicle that isn't as sporty and stick with that for a few more years.

(I'm gonna get flamed for this) But you try changing a womans mind she either wants that or a mazda 8. I am really thinking of making her go for that mazda since i don't know alot about nissans other than the skyline.

Hmm, maybe the answer is Volvo station wagon. Just show up with it one day. (removed)

Seriously..if you want a good all around sports type car wait for the mazdaspeed6. 4wd close to 274hp 280lbs-tq. http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWe...peed6I'm REALLY anxious to see this car. Another car to concider is the infinity g35 same car basically, but you can get it in a sedan or coupe, but sorry no convertable. Plus it comes in awd so she'll have piece of mind in foul weatherhttp://www.infiniti.com/OR even better would be one of the new Lexus IS models coming outhttp://www.lexus.com/2006is_pr...20263

Quote, originally posted by tangerine »(I'm gonna get flamed for this) But you try changing a womans mind she either wants that or a mazda 8. I am really thinking of making her go for that mazda since i don't know alot about nissans other than the skyline.speaking as one, you can't. just ask mav when i was working on buying the LGT. i was going to get it, no matter what. but i have to agree with everyone here, nice and fun cars both but for any kind of winter driving! unless she knows without a doubt you're always going to be around for winter rides, then i'd look at some kind of awd sports car. and yes, upgrading from a neon to a sportscar? she's gonna have to relearn to drive! lol. what about the Audi TT quatro? or a BMW? of course, i would always recommend my LGT to anyone as well.

Oh yeah...Mmmm Subaru finally got the looks of the legacy right. Man I love that car

Quote, originally posted by Storm »Oh yeah...Mmmm Subaru finally got the looks of the legacy right. Man I love that caryes, no kidding! first time i saw one, it was black, tint, debadged and i had to follow it to try and figure out what the hell it was! i saw that shiny dual exhaust and was drooling on myself! lol

oh that mazda speed six is nice looking

yes, i'd have considered that if the AWD had been available. but not in the US yet and the infiniti was way out of my price range!

I haven't seen any of those legacy's. are they just a slightly larger impereza? (sp?) I do like the looks and hear they pack a punch. Plz tell me about this car as I think if I showed her one she'd most likely love it and an AWD would be nice.

The legacy chassis is bigger than the imprezza. It shares the same 2.5 boxer engine as the STi, but 50hp less and 50 lb-tq less. The legacy is the luxury line for subaru. There's nothing lacking in this car. Just make sure you get the GT model

I am in love with the mazdaspeed 6 uhhh cant wait for that. sube legacy's are bad (removed), I sat in one at the car show its like a luxury sports sedan. cant go wrong with mazda or sube

Get a G35. Same thing, but classier, and I think it's better looking. And there are less of those than Z's. The coupe is 2wd only, the sedan you can get in awd. The car will be the usa skyline with a diff motor and awd in the next few years.

Quote, originally posted by tangerine »I haven't seen any of those legacy's. are they just a slightly larger impereza? (sp?) I do like the looks and hear they pack a punch. Plz tell me about this car as I think if I showed her one she'd most likely love it and an AWD would be nice.(removed), does it pack a punch??? oh hell yes! and once (when i have $$ and am allowed after a house) i go stage 2 on this baby, i'm up to more than a stock STI and HELLA torque! mmmmm!!!!! awd turbo'd goodness in a sleek sleeper package! in fact, a few months ago, i'm at the car wash and this guy in his fairlady Z pulls up next to me and tells me what a sweet (removed) ride I have. he knew what he was talking about because he was telling me the stats on a STOCK LGT, 0-60 in 5.6 sec, 250 hp, 250 ft-lbs torque, etc. a guy on legacygt.com clocked his auto LGT after uppipe, downpipe, stage 2 maps, and pullies doing 0-60 in 4.73 sec!Quote »I waited until 10PM here in NJ so that it had time to cool down a bit (got home at 8:30) and it was fully dark and trffic was at a minimum. I went to the SAME EXACT stretch of road that I have done all of my testing on to be as consistant as possible.As a recap here were my bests on that same stretch with the same G-Tech through my different mods...........Stock 6.02 (2800 RPM TQ Break)+ Pullies 5.74 (3000 RPM TQ Break) + Pullies + AP Stage I 93 v1.10 5.41 (3000 RPM TQ Break)So as you can see the mods (even if the G-TECH isn't totally correct) were helping the car. In all those runs I never broke the tires loose at all EVER.Now for tonight !!!!!!!!!!!!!!71 degress out and not very humid+Pullies + AP Stage II 93 v1.10 (Crucial UP and DP as stated above)Run #1 being very very cautious b/c it was my first WOT since the install5.10 in sport mode 3000 RPM TQ BreakRun #2 ok nothing broke so I started to go for it 4.83 in sport mode 3200 RPM TQ BreakRun #3 again noting broke and I was flipping out so went for it again4.77 in sport mode 3400RPM TQ BreakNow for the winner!!!Run #4 one more time in Manual Mode4.73!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3700 RPM TQ Break. I broke the tires loose on 3 of 4 runs too!!!!!I don't understand why but the car can hold TQ Breaks into the 3000RPM range now where it would break loose about 700 RPMs earlier at stage I. I think it is because of the super fast spool of stage II now. Has to be. Anyway I am like freaking out now hahah. This is soo awesome. That now beats my 1997 Camaro 0-60 for the fastest time I have ever acheived in one of my cars. That ran a 4.81 http://legacygt.com/forums/att...=9327

well unless they find a way to turbo or s/c the 1zz with driveby wire, after todays sucky news I may end up getting a black legacy GT with the sport auto.

Quote, originally posted by trdvibe »speaking as one, you can't. just ask mav when i was working on buying the LGT. i was going to get it, no matter what. but i have to agree with everyone here, nice and fun cars both but for any kind of winter driving! unless she knows without a doubt you're always going to be around for winter rides, then i'd look at some kind of awd sports car. and yes, upgrading from a neon to a sportscar? she's gonna have to relearn to drive! lol. what about the Audi TT quatro? or a BMW? of course, i would always recommend my LGT to anyone as well. yeah I figured I'd just shut up and let her get the LGT but she has to be making 80k a year before I'll let her sign her name to a BMW...As for you.. if she's comfortable with a neon, I'd not push her into fairlady Z... Question is, you want the Z or she does? If she wants something else... I got nothing against those mazda 6. Beautiful, powerful and a winter vehicle. Plus parts to repair anything would cost less as well. Oh and think of the insurance to.

Quote, originally posted by tangerine »well unless they find a way to turbo or s/c the 1zz with driveby wire, after todays sucky news I may end up getting a black legacy GT with the sport auto.more bad news??? damn! you are not having luck are you! but i will say that sometimes i miss the manny tranny but in traffic, i really love the auto in my LGT. plus, the manual shift mode can be a lot of fun. apparently i scared my "second" mother today while driving through traffic in town. lol. i guess whipping in and out of traffic makes her nervous. but the steering wheel controls are cool

I would love a manual but parents would rather I not after doctor saying my arm is never gonna be 100% with reflex and grip. So its either a legacy, cobalt ss, or something else fun to drive thats automatic and sporty. (even though thats a complete oxymoron)

there;s someone on matrixowners that is about to buy a s/c to try and fit it onto the '05.

hmm, then I gotta see how that comes out. I'm gonna hold off on buying until I'm able to drive. I wanted to get that GT purchased in a hurry but since I can't drive a stick now I'll just wait till I'm healed. thankfully out of the stuff i purchased nothing was specifically for vibe except the tint and exhaust i had ordered but they are refundable.

Quote, originally posted by tangerine »I would love a manual but parents would rather I not after doctor saying my arm is never gonna be 100% with reflex and grip. So its either a legacy, cobalt ss, or something else fun to drive thats automatic and sporty. (even though thats a complete oxymoron)um no. i can bet you that my LGT is by far more sporty than my vibe GT would ever be! yes, i do miss the 6MT sometimes, but boy can my 5EAT kick my vibe's (removed) any day of the week, even if i power launched in 2nd gear! you can still get something sporty and fun to drive, but keep in mind that a vibe GT, cobalt SS, saturn ion are NOT sports cars. they may have pep, but 200 hp? come on! that's NOT a sports car. and not that my Legacy is a sports car, because it really isn't. but $1500 and it will beat a stock STI.

Your starting to sell me on that you know. I need to find a pic of what a black one looks like. subaru's site doesn't show jack

black LGT's are so sexy! here's a link to legacy.com's thread on ALL black LGT's. there are some that are soooo sweet!http://www.legacygt.com/forums...=1500

DAMN looking at all these pictures I want that car....

wow subaru site does not do the car justice..even that wagon looks nice... I think you just officially sold me.

the zero sports Legacy rocks! mmmm! i wish i could afford the body kit, turbo upgrade, downpipe, TBE, accessport..... the list goes on and on! lolalso like this one too:interior of a 5EAT (auto). yes those are shift controls on the steering wheel, both sides. unfortunately they do not control the radio. man, i need to get some good interior shots of the car! lol

whoa! I just told mommy and daddy I'm getting a legacy that top pic with the body kit just made me drool. So they do have alot of options for'm? Now to find a subaru dealer and see what that car is gonna cost me.

luckly all the dealerships should be starting their model year clearance sales so you should be able to get a really good deal

that forum says LGT's are rare and I'v never seen one so i hope there is one. looks like holding out till i can drive isn't gonna happen I nowa want this purchased with a car cover setting in my garage waiting for me.

I'm completely jealous...Good luck with it. http://www.edmunds.com is a good place to start they will locate dealers with the car you want

thanks

no blacks but dealers near me have 2 silver and a regal blue

Silver is sweet, I believe the LGT trdvibe has is the regal blue, but black is definitly the best looking. Although I saw a white one and oh man..I usually don;t like lwhite, but...wow

yea team23legacy or w/e his name is on those forums has a white one that looks mean

no, i have an atlantic blue legacy gt limited. if you click on my signature pic, it'll take you to my photobucket album of the car. there are also a couple subalbums of various "mods" i have done. I'm still working on gutting out the uppipe (car has 3 cats) and that's supposed to give me about 15 whp on the low end and smooth out the transmission. i'm told also, the cobb ap (chip) will also help smooth out the shifting and will bring the car from stock 250 hp to about 285-290 hp. once you go stage 2, you're talking over 300 hp and hella fast times! mid 13's quarter mile and 0-60 in about 4.7 sec.

from what I see on the site the body kits and grills are only sold in europ?

plenty of performance mods but exterior mods look to be for the japaneese line only. sucky, that K2K2 kit makes me want a wagon and that Gaila kit is just flat out beautiful.

Legacy GT has a few mods but most of the Subaru popularity lies with the WRX. They have the most mods available. Those 230HP turbo WRX can with a couple mods, be faster then a stock WRX STI. But the Legacy is still a great car as well but if your wanting to go completely all tuner, power and appearance mods... WRX is where it lies.

or evo MR where you don't have to do anything to it. OR evo9But the interior of the WRX is 300X better

yeah, road and track, or was it car and driver... anyway did a drive comparison between STI and Evo... STI got best over all for power and interior... they hated the Evo plastic. I've never been in an Evo but one of the guys we know here in AK took the wife for a ride in his.

I don't want all out tuner what I do want is a body kit for it. I think the Legacy with stage 2 and exhasut will be enough of a beast.

Wide body on a wrx see if your local subie dealership has the latest SubieSport mag... or check http://www.subiesport.com

I think the best looking car I've seen with a widebody kit was an is300. Let me see if I can dig up some pics for you

I can't drive a WRX, for one, I'm 6'2 and they don't have crap for leg room, and 2 I'v never seen an auto.

Never seen an auto? I have... Hmmm... From http://www.subaru.com 2005 impreza sedan with turbo.Type 2.0-Liter DOHC Intercooled, turbocharged aluminum-alloy 16-valve 4-cylinder horizontally opposed Subaru Boxer engine. Platinum-tipped spark plugs. Horsepower 227 hp @ 6000 rpm Torque (lb.-ft.) 217 lb.-ft. @ 4000 rpm Fuel & Ignition System Sequential multi-port fuel injection. Electronic Throttle Control (ETC). Engine management with integrated self-diagnostics and adaptive driving habits capability. Direct ignition. Fuel Tank Capacity 15.9 gallons Fuel Economy (city/highway) Manual: 20/27 mpg, Automatic: 19/26 mpg Steering Engine-speed-sensing variable power-assisted rack-and-pinion. Turning Circle, Curb-to-Curb 35.4 feet Suspension Sport-tuned 4-wheel independent suspension. Front: Strut-type with multiple-phase valve damping and lower L-arm. Rear: Strut-type with multiple-phase valve damping and parallel link. Front and rear stabilizer bars. Brakes 4-wheel disc, ventilated front. 11.4 front / 10.3 rear. 4-channel, 4-sensor ABS with Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD). Wheels 16x6.5-inch 10-spoke aluminum-alloy. Silver finish. Tires 205/55 R16 89V performance all-season Manual Transmission (Standard) Fully synchronized 5-speed manual with clutch pedal-controlled starter interlock. Automatic Transmission (Optional) 4-speed electronically controlled automatic with Economy and Power modes. Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive (AWD) Continuous AWD: Models equipped with 5-speed manual transmission utilize a viscous-type locking center differential with torque distribution configured at a 50/50-split front-to-rear. WRX models also feature a viscous-type limited-slip rear differential. VTD AWD: WRX models equipped with 4-speed automatic transimission utilize an electronically controlled variable transfer clutch in conjunction with a planetary-type center differential. Rear wheel-biased torque distribution normally configured at 45/55-split front-to-rear. Variable Torque Distribution (VTD) also features a viscous-type limited-slip rear differential. (I'm 6'3" with plenty of room but then again I turn sideways and you lose sight of me )

Interesting..

And if your more into the legacy look... the 06 (which isn't on the site yet) its headlamps are very simular to the Legacy. Of course there is the grill changes but I don't mind those.