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Subs question

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:25 pm
by McVibe
okay, well I'm going to get some 12" subs for my vibe and I was wondering what I need to know when hooking them up (ex: OHMs) I have an 04 with moons and tunes, I think I found some subs I like on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/12-INCH-20...wItem Keeping with my German heiratage

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:49 pm
by KaosStarr
# Magnet: 160 oz. Double stacked Ferrite magnets# Frame: 5 spoke Die-cast aluminum basket# Cone: Reinforced aluminum curvilinear# Surround: Oversized buytl rubber# Spider: 2 Flat ultra excursion# Power handling EACH! : 500 watts RMS, 1,000 Watts Program (conservative)# T Yoke: Industrial Chromed Hex bolt retained, Bumped and Vented# Double damper magnetic motor assembly# Cooling: Double Vented (T Yoke and Motor Side vents)# Voice Coils: 4 Layer Dual 4 Ohm High Temperature black Aluminum# Voice Coil Diameter: 2.2"# Nominal impedance: 4 ohms / per coil# DC resistance (Re): 3.2 ohms each coil# Frequency range: 20 Hz-1.1 kHz# Fs:30 Hz# QTS:.526# QES:.614# QMS:7.698# VAS:56L# SD:.0491M# SPL:90 dB 1W/1m# Xmax:16mm# Mounting Depth: 165 MM# Mounting Hole Dia.:296 MMAlright thats the true specs on the sub. Its a dual 4ohm sub, so each sub can be wired into 2ohm or 8ohm. If you wish to bridge the speakers for a monoblock amp then you could get a 1ohm or 4ohm load. That will greatly depend on the amp you are looking into. You will need about a 1000rms amp to run them effeciently.

Re: (KaosStarr)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:52 pm
by drunkenmaxx
all i can say is don't go to quiznos, they are overpriced.

Re: (drunkenvibe)

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:08 pm
by McVibe
Quote, originally posted by drunkenvibe »all i can say is don't go to quiznos, they are overpriced. Yea, I understand, Subway is much cheaper I found them for cheaper and I also found a great Amp (if it will work...http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-VOLFEN...wItemAlso I am thing about putting in some Volfenhag speakers in my doors and I'm wondering how to remove the old ones (when I opened the door, the looked rivoted on) and would i need a separate amp?

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:07 am
by HamiltonAudio
Just FYI - I'm hoping you're not expecting world-ending performance from this product. It is a very low-buck lineup with a poor track record.If you're happy with it, don't let anybody else tell you otherwise. Just beware that you truly do get what you pay for in car audio.I'd VASTLY take an entry level Kenwood or Clarion subwoofer over this one any day of the week....bmoney

Re: (HamiltonAudio)

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:25 am
by McVibe
Thanks. I think I will take your advice. Any reccommendations on subs, looking for 12"

Re: (McVibe)

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:21 pm
by drunkenmaxx
Quote, originally posted by McVibe »Thanks. I think I will take your advice. Any reccommendations on subs, looking for 12"mtx (what i have) sells subs that give you lots of bump for your buck. a lot of times, you can get them at circuit city buy one get one free! their amps are good for the price as well. sure, the lower end stuff they have (what i have) may not be competition winning equipment, but it sounds great and you don't have to spend a grand either.

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:36 pm
by KaosStarr
Between me and a buddy we had MTX 6ks and 8ks I ran 2 12s on a ZR240 then a JL Audio 300/2 they sounded good but the leads were always a problem.If your shooting for cheap but can get pretty loud, go on ebay pickup 2 Kicker Comp VR 12s that are dual 2ohm coils. Should be around 150 total for both minus shipping. Pick up a nice 600watt amp for 600rms@2ohm. You should be pretty happy.

Re: (McVibe)

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:40 pm
by Mr. Poopypants
Quote, originally posted by McVibe »Thanks. I think I will take your advice. Any reccommendations on subs, looking for 12"I am a big fan of Kicker Comps. I had a 12 in my old car and 2 10's in my Vibe and they provide nice sound, keep in mind, you have to get a decent amp too.

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:00 pm
by idontknowwhatimdoing
You are DEFINITELY going to want to try to find some Eclipse 8800 series woofers on Ebay...seeing as how you got the box designed for them! Kidding...Any woofer that will work in 1 cu. foot will slam in that box. It is about 2 cu. ft. total.

Re: (idontknowwhatimdoing)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:02 pm
by idontknowwhatimdoing
OH yeah....and you will want to find an XTANT X603 amp as it fits the amp cutout on that box as well! FYI

Re: Subs question (McVibe)

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:40 pm
by McVibe
Okay, so I decided against the Volfenhags but I found some nice subs and was wonderin, do they have to be the same OHM as my car? What is my stereo's OHM?

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:56 pm
by Jahntassa
Your 'car' doesn't have an OHM rating. The subs do.You have to determine what subs you want, then find an amp to match that 'ohm' rating with the RMS power the subs can handle.

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:16 pm
by ragingfish
You should get the MTX jackhammer. 6,000 watts RMS/12,000 watts peak music powerCarbon fiber and glass fiber dust cap with aluminum honeycomb sandwichFEA designed progressive roll spider with 10 AWG integrated tinsel leads woven in to allow for 2.5" of linear cone movement one way6.5" voice coil with 19 guage, flat wound, high-temp aluminum wire designed for long excursion Expanded polypropylene cone with mica filler for reduced mass and increased stiffnes900 ounce strontium ferrite magnet with extended magnetic field gap technology and aluminum shorting ringAluminum heatsink to maintain the optimum voice-coil temperature2.5" of x-max for serious excursion22" cone diameter23" tallWeight: 369 lbs.

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:38 pm
by KaosStarr
Isn't that the sub, The Jackhammer, they used in pimp my ride?

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:14 pm
by ragingfish
yessir!

Re: (ragingfish)

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:20 pm
by JustinVGT
Man, that thing is HUGE! 369 lbs! That sure would hurt your car's performance! What is the point of a sub like that? I bet it would shatter your windows. A few years ago when I worked at Best Buy, they had a demo Tahoe with a huge system in it. I don't remember what they had, but they had to keep the windows rolled down because when they test it out it could shatter the windows. It rattled the entire store and gave us and the customers head aches. About 6 months later they finally got rid of it after so many complaints. Management was in denial and thought the customers liked the booming music while they shopped! It was rediculous.

Re: (JustinVGT)

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:08 pm
by Jahntassa
Quote, originally posted by JustinVGT »Man, that thing is HUGE! 369 lbs! That sure would hurt your car's performance! What is the point of a sub like that? SPL competition. That's literally the only reason to have something like that. Pushing 12,000watts is NOT that easy.. I did see the Excursion that MTX used to put three of those things in, though.. They also had one mounted to the back of a golf cart in fiberglass to drive around and show it off..

Re: (Jahntassa)

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:20 pm
by McVibe
Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa »Your 'car' doesn't have an OHM rating. The subs do. Yes, I realized this, I was refering to my head unit, I didn't know if they had to have the same Ohm rating. Yes, the subs have the same Ohm rating as the amp so I'm all set and thanks for all ur help guys!