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window "PAIN"

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:52 am
by average joe vibe
Has anyone else noticed that when drivng at high speeds with the rear window down and uncomfortably deafening sound and feeling from the wind comes into the vehicle. It's almost like the wind is vibrating into the car and becomes deafening. We like to keep one of the windows down so our dog can stick her head out, but when she puts her head back in and the entire window is exposed....the pain from the pane is excrutiating...anyone have any fixes?

Re: window "PAIN" (average joe vibe)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:59 am
by drunkenmaxx
open another window along with that one.

Re: window "PAIN" (drunkenvibe)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:18 am
by Atomic
I noticed the buffeting also the first time I took one for a drive.Our Saturn wagon does the same thing, it's actually a little worse on the ears.It's not a case of being loud, just the the way the air makes my ear drums vibrate is effin' awful.As long as the A/C keeps working I'm OK. If lowering another window doesn't help, then maybe adding vent visors would decrease the buffeting a little by disrupting the airflow into the window?

Re: window "PAIN" (Atomic)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:27 am
by micheles_bad_vibe
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Re: window "PAIN" (micheles_bad_vibe)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:30 am
by drunkenmaxx
its not actually the noise that bothers the ears, it's the pressure fluctuation.

Re: window "PAIN" (drunkenvibe)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:37 am
by sloth
This is actually from the increased air pressure coming into the vehicle without any place to go. So when there is enough pressure the air is pushed out the same window, which give the buffetting effect.Open another window slightly to allow the air to flow through the car. The larger the "cab" of the vehicle the more problem this is.

Re: window "PAIN" (drunkenvibe)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:57 am
by zionzr2
This pressure fluctuation or vibration is exactly how our ears hear things..the greater the amplitude of the vibrations the louder the sound is percieved.my truck did this my vibe has only done it a couple times... lately its been so humid I b running the A/C

Re: window "PAIN"

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:06 am
by joatmon
This goes way back in genvibe history to thread 47

Re: window "PAIN" (zionzr2)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:20 am
by drunkenmaxx
Quote, originally posted by zionzr2 »This pressure fluctuation or vibration is exactly how our ears hear things..the greater the amplitude of the vibrations the louder the sound is percieved.that is not the same thing. you do not hear the water in a pool getting deeper do you?

Re: window "PAIN" (average joe vibe)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:35 am
by ZubenElGenubi
Fix: If you have to crack a rear window (ex. for a dog), crack a front window as well to help equalize the pressure and stop the "vibrating sound". You won't have to crack the second window that much.This happens in nearly all 4-dr vehicles; it's a physics thing.

Re: window "PAIN" (drunkenvibe)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:41 am
by joatmon
Quote, originally posted by drunkenvibe »that is not the same thing. you do not hear the water in a pool getting deeper do you? You would hear it if there was enough change in pressure, and the change in pressure oscillated at a frequency you could hear, say something above twenty cycles per second. Just going deep in water, or driving up a mountain, or other things that change the pressure slowly, you won't "hear" them because the frequency is too low. Now if you hooked yourself up to a machine that grabbed your head and pushed it from one foot deep in water to say, 15 feet in water, and pulled it back up to one foot deep, and did this repeatedly at thirty times per second, then you would certainly hear it

Re: window "PAIN" (joatmon)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:55 am
by drunkenmaxx
alright mr wizzard! my point is, the sound (as it is perceived) is not what causes the pain in the earit is the actual pressure. your ears hurt at the bottom of the pool, yet you hear nothing.of course, i could be totally wrong on everything, but eh F it!

Re: window "PAIN" (joatmon)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:06 am
by Kari
Quote, originally posted by joatmon »You would hear it if there was enough change in pressure, and the change in pressure oscillated at a frequency you could hear, say something above twenty cycles per second. Just going deep in water, or driving up a mountain, or other things that change the pressure slowly, you won't "hear" them because the frequency is too low. Now if you hooked yourself up to a machine that grabbed your head and pushed it from one foot deep in water to say, 15 feet in water, and pulled it back up to one foot deep, and did this repeatedly at thirty times per second, then you would certainly hear it That sounds like a scary machine...

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:09 am
by Vibe_dude
i thought i might try having the windows down....and popping the hatch window to let the air out the back o9f the car.....just open it enough to let air escape out the back...kinda like a sliding rear window on a truck.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:44 am
by Atomb
from my days in the VW when the rear driver's side window broke, i developed a habit of opening my driver's window and the rear passenger's side window....the wind flows in your window without buffeting into the side of your head, swirls around back (careful, i had a plastic bag back there once and it swirled up and all the way into the front seat!) and out the back passenger side window. It'll cool down your car in seconds! ...and eliminates that buffeting.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:53 am
by Pick

Re: (Vibe_dude)

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:33 am
by sloth
You might want to rethink opening the hatch window. On my parents old blazer if you opened the back window it would suck in the exhaust fumes.