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Tire size summary
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:01 am
by Jmontigny
I have done some searching but have not found any real good post that talks about what fits and what does not.To be more specific what are the tire sizes that fit with stock ride height and lowered ride height, what offsets are needed with different tire widths and is there any rubbing with the setups people are using?An example of how we set this up at an Elantra forum was like this.2001-2005 Elantra stock tire 195/60/15Upgrade to 205/55/15, 205/50/16, 205/45/17 for the same speedo reading. These sizes will also all work with stock or lowered as long as a 45-40mm offset is used.215/45/17 can be used with a 40-45mm offset but will alter the speedo slightly and may rub slightly in the rear of the 5dr when lowered if a 40mm offset is used.Is there someone here that knows these cars inside and out to make a post similiar to that? It seems obvious that 225 fits but does 245 also work trouble free stock and lowered? Also what offset is needed for best fit?
Re: Tire size summary (Jmontigny)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:08 am
by damronjr
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.htmlIt says it's for a Miata, but if you put in your stock size and replacement size, you can see if it fits right. There's also one on tirerack's website.
Re: Tire size summary (Jmontigny)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:09 am
by MoonDogg
Quote, originally posted by Jmontigny »I have done some searching but have not found any real good post that talks about what fits and what does not.To be more specific what are the tire sizes that fit with stock ride height and lowered ride height, what offsets are needed with different tire widths and is there any rubbing with the setups people are using?An example of how we set this up at an Elantra forum was like this.2001-2005 Elantra stock tire 195/60/15Upgrade to 205/55/15, 205/50/16, 205/45/17 for the same speedo reading. These sizes will also all work with stock or lowered as long as a 45-40mm offset is used.215/45/17 can be used with a 40-45mm offset but will alter the speedo slightly and may rub slightly in the rear of the 5dr when lowered if a 40mm offset is used.Is there someone here that knows these cars inside and out to make a post similiar to that? It seems obvious that 225 fits but does 245 also work trouble free stock and lowered? Also what offset is needed for best fit?I can't answer all you questions.. but I have done research and have found that 30-35mm offsets work with standard ride hight... but I would like to add anouther question to this thread... will a 225/40-18 fit on a 18X7 rim ? also here are tire sizes I know work on the vibe215/50-17225/40-18225/35-19
Re: Tire size summary (MoonDogg)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:12 am
by damronjr
Quote, originally posted by MoonDogg »I can't answer all you questions.. but I have done research and have found that 30-35mm offsets work with standard ride hight... but I would like to add anouther question to this thread... will a 225/40-18 fit on a 18X7 rim ? also here are tire sizes I know work on the vibe215/50-17225/40-18225/35-19Just FYI, I currently have 235/45/ZR19's on my car and they are fine. I have passed the speed readers and they show the same as my speedo. Those are on 19 x 8.5" riims.
Re: Tire size summary (damronjr)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:36 am
by Jmontigny
Ok here are a couple important questions.What is the stock offset for both the 205/55/16 and the optional 215/50/17 on the GT? Since those tires sizes are 2.4% different in speedo reading does Toyota/Pontiac calibrate the cars with the 215/50/17 different?
Re: Tire size summary (Jmontigny)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:39 am
by Jmontigny
Damronjr, if you car had 215/50/17 as the OEM size then the size you listed is going to be much taller then the OEM and throw the speedo off about 4-5mph.Regardless do you get any rubbing and how much is your car lowered?
Re: Tire size summary (Jmontigny)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:48 am
by damronjr
Quote, originally posted by Jmontigny »Damronjr, if you car had 215/50/17 as the OEM size then the size you listed is going to be much taller then the OEM and throw the speedo off about 4-5mph.Regardless do you get any rubbing and how much is your car lowered?I actually had the 16's, but no, there is no rubbing. I haven't had any problems at all, except when I put spacers on my rear wheels, which, not only looked dumb, but also rubbed the inside of the fender when I hit dips or bumps. My Vibe is lowered about 1.5" all around with the Eibach Pro-kit drop springs.
Re: Tire size summary (damronjr)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:04 am
by Jmontigny
Well 205/55/16 to a 235/45/19 would put your speedo off by 6mph. Any idea what the offset on your wheels are that allows them to fit with no rubbing?
Re: Tire size summary (Jmontigny)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:07 am
by Jmontigny
Here is a quick list of the best sizes i could figure out for the Vibe with stock 205/55/16 or the stock 215/50/17. Now i just need to add the details about offsets and rubbing issues if any.The first number is the tire size. Second number is overall diameter and the last number is the overal height difference from stock.205/55/16 24.9Stock205/50/17 25.1+.2215/45/17 24.6-.3215/40/18 24.8-.1225/45/17 25.0+.1225/40/18 25.1+.2245/40/17 24.7-.2245/35/18 24.8-.1215/50/17 25.5Optional Stock215/45/18 25.6+.1235/45/17 25.3-.2235/40/18 25.4-.1245/45/17 25.7+.2245/40/18 25.7+.2
Re: Tire size summary (Jmontigny)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:14 am
by damronjr
Quote, originally posted by Jmontigny »Well 205/55/16 to a 235/45/19 would put your speedo off by 6mph. Any idea what the offset on your wheels are that allows them to fit with no rubbing?Okay, just checked and they are 19 x 8" and the offset is either 35 or 45. I can't go and look at the rims right now to see, but that is what is offered by Axis.
Re: Tire size summary (damronjr)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:31 am
by Jmontigny
Are you sure the tires you have are 235/45/19 and not actually 235/35/19. They don't look like a 235/45/19 from the pictures. If they are actually 235/35/19 that would explain why the speedo is accurate since that size would be almost the same as stock.
Re: Tire size summary (Jmontigny)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:39 am
by damronjr
Quote, originally posted by Jmontigny »Are you sure the tires you have are 235/45/19 and not actually 235/35/19. They don't look like a 235/45/19 from the pictures. If they are actually 235/35/19 that would explain why the speedo is accurate since that size would be almost the same as stock.They are 245/35/ZR19! I just checked them right now! I guess I am a dumb-@$$! I can't see the offset as I think it is shown on the inside of the rim.
Re: Tire size summary (damronjr)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:49 am
by Jmontigny
Ok that makes alot more sense now, Thanks for checking.
Re: Tire size summary (Jmontigny)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:04 am
by damronjr
Yeah, I planned to put 225/35/19's for my new tires as that is what is recommended as the correct tires for my car having 16's to start with. Does this sound kosher?
Re: Tire size summary (damronjr)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:08 am
by Jmontigny
Yes, 225/35/19 would have been only .3 inches larger than the 205/55/16 overall diameter.
Re: Tire size summary (Jmontigny)
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:13 am
by damronjr
Cool, thanks! That is what tirerack was giving me, but good to make sure.
Re: Tire size summary (damronjr)
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:19 am
by Jmontigny
I just realized this is in the wrong section. Could a mod move it to the wheels and tires please.So is there really nobody here that has good knowledge of the tire widths and offsets that work with no rubbing?
Re: Tire size summary (Jmontigny)
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:39 am
by Raven
MadBill has a set of 275/40/17 Firehawks on 10" wide rims with about a 1" drop and has no rubbing issues.
http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=4132