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This is a picture of my 2004 Vibe with a Amsoil dual remote filtration system on it .Shot above the grill,the system is attached to the back side of the front bumper.This system allows six quarts of oil to be used and filters down smaller then one micron,a human hair is about 40 microns.I put in Amsoil 0W-30 motor oil in it which will with oil analysis, most likely will never need a oil change just filters every 25,000 miles or one year.

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This is a picture of were the oil filter use to be,kind of hard to see.

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Looks great! How long did it take to install it? Was it difficult to installl? I ask this because I ordered the Amsoil dual bypas filter system for my Vibe as well. It's still in the box because I haven't had the time to put it in yet.

You need the BK-11 90 'S For going off of the filter side.Yes it takes awhile,tight fit on the Vibe.The car is already getting better MPG then before,the car only has 2500 miles on it.I did put the cosmo air cold air intake on it with a oil wetted filter this stops 100% of the dirt from getting into the motor.I will attach a picture of the filter

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so what benefits does it have beside better gas mileage? I don't understand the purpose? Is it for performance or for something else? Sorry about the questions I've never seen one before.

Ditto.In short, what does one have to gain by installing this doohickey?

A great question the engine runs cooler, more power and unbelievable filtering.Basically it would be hard to where the motor out with this system on and air filter as I have described.The motor will still operate at the temp it was design for but the oil runs much cooler.I have change the transmission fluid over to ATF Amsoil synthetic fluid with a instant results with it also.

And you said you NEVER have to change the oil anymore if you run the AMSoil?

You have to use oil analysis and change the filters.Oil analysis is were you send a sample of oil in and the will send back the results, on A application such as a Vibe you most likely never need a oil change.

Where can I get an oil analysis kit?I've checked all my local auto parts stores, none of them ahve them...

Amsoil has these kits.A independent oil analysis is done buy a company that Amsoil sends it to. And Amsoil also guarantees the motor for any oil related problems.

What do they run (oil analysis kit)?

25.20 Postage paid you have to consider that you are not having to change your oil though,and it is a pretty good insurance policy because if their is any unusual where going on it will show up.

$25.20 per kit? Do you have a bulk rate?

I don't know what you mean.If you are going with this system you are much better off becoming a preferred customer for 10.00 for six months and then you can buy everything at whole sale pricing.

Is there a catalog or somethign so I can see what wholesale pricing works out to?

Go to my web site http://www.usamadeoil.com fill out the free catalog request I will get it out tomorrow.Thanks Mark

What model number is the air filter?Also, how come your using the 0w-30 instead of the 5w-30?

The air filter is UNI- filter part #UAP-901 web site is http://www.unifilter.com/automotive.htm sorry that Amsoil does not sell this filter size but you got to do what ever it takes to protect your motor.The 0w-30 is simply the best oil money can buy.

Quote, originally posted by chevysalesman »Go to my web site http://www.usamadeoil.com fill out the free catalog request I will get it out tomorrow.Thanks MarkDone.Thanks!

I need you to put your phone number in their this is how the computer associates you to me as the dealer

Dual-filter bypass systems are fantastic - I've known one guy who (basically) hasn't done an oil change on his F-150 for 10 years. You just change the filter media once or twice a year, add about 1 litre to replace what you lose in the filter, and off you go.No you don't have to use Amsoil or any other specific oils - you can use any oil you want, synthetic or dino-juice - doesn't matter. You do have to use oil testing though if you're going for this kind of long change interval -- you need to watch the particulates that are getting through etc to make sure your oil is working as it should.I do however have high doubts as to anyone making claims of higher mileage or power just from changing the oil filtration system - that my friends, is likely a load of bull-pucky. You will get better oil cooling, due to the larger quantity and extra lines for cooling - but that's about it.For those who want to learn more than you ever wanted to know about oil & filtration systems, check out : http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php That's the "BobIsTheOilGuy Message Forum", and you'll learn more there than just about anyone you know. There's even a whole section there on Bypass filters.[rant on]And not to rail on Chevysalesman - but isn't it amazing how Amsoil guys always try to get you to sign up to be an Amsoil guy? Much as I appreciate their products (whilch are good by all accounts), they're way overpriced when similar products do just as well in testing *cough* Mobil 1 *cough*And they're always trying to get you onboard for their version of the Pyramid scheme... which I find annoying as all hell.[rant off]

If you look at my post on the filter I don't sale those, if you are uneducated about oil thats fine but don't bash those that are.

I don't understand though...how does the oil not break down over time?

Any good synthetic will last longer then petroleum but Amsoil is the only oil sold currently that has recommend extending drain intervals mobil is getting ready to release a new extended drain oils but Amsoil has had this since 1972.It can break down over time this is why they recommend oil analysis.

Quote, originally posted by chevysalesman »Any good synthetic will last longer then petroleum but Amsoil is the only oil sold currently that has recommend extending drain intervals mobil is getting ready to release a new extended drain oils but Amsoil has had this since 1972.It can break down over time this is why they recommend oil analysis.http://www.royalpurple.com/prodsa/rpmoa.html

On the royal purple page it tells you in the lower right hand corner Switching is Easy.Switching is Easy.1. Drain Old Oil 2. Change The Filter 3. Add Royal Purple® Motor Oil Follow manufacturer's recommended drain intervals during warranty What is that, they only want you to do extended after warranty is out

[QUOTE=chevysalesman] Follow manufacturer's recommended drain intervals during warranty What is that, they only want you to do extended after warranty is outQuote » In Other words, don't do this while the car is under Manufacturer's warranty, because it would void that warranty?

It won't if you are using Amsoil https://www.amsoil.com/warranty.aspx

Anything not the manufacturer's reccommended procedures can - that's CAN - technically void the warranty - even with Amsoil.Now, having said that, manufacturers will always say it's because you didn't follow our schedule, even when it's not a factor. You have to hop through many hoops to prove your case should you have a problem and try to use warranty service.Most sugest that it's still a good idea to follow the manufacturer's schedule, no matter what (in this case oil) you use, to prevent this.So Amsoil says they are rated for extended drain intervals, and reading their warranty given in the link they'll cover you if you can prove it was the oil's fault. Which is the exact same hoops you have to hop through with any auto manufacturer. This also applies if you've been denied warranty service for using their products. So where's the benefit here?Short story: if you want to protect the warranty and not have issues - follow the schedule no matter what oil you choose. If you use extended drains - no matter what oil and Amsoil's claims aside - you take the risk of being denied warranty service and will have to hop through tons of legal hoops to get covered by either manufacturers.

Quote, originally posted by chevysalesman »Amsoil has these kits.A independent oil analysis is done buy a company that Amsoil sends it to. And Amsoil also guarantees the motor for any oil related problems.Wow, that's pretty cool..how much did this cost, and can you provide a link on their website? I've been using Amsoil since about 7500 miles and plan on continuing it, but I'd love to go with something like this...please do let me know, and thanks!Also, I seem to have lost all my preferred customer info...how do I go about tracking myself down? lol. I'm about ready to place another order. Name is Christian Hamlin. I believe Derek Kolb is my Amsoil rep. Thanks.

Shouldn't you be a sponsor to be selling retail here? Amsoil is as good as anything out there for a daily driver and they make great gear oils also but the motor oils tends to thicken in long drain intervals. It probably still protects fine but you'll actually get worse gas mileage later in the interval. The TBN (ability to neutralize acids) would be depleted without the filter changes that also require additional oil to boost the tbn back up. There's an independent test that shows regular Mobil One actually held up better over 15k and beyond. These results will vary by model etc. but some of us do know a bit. Amsoil buys almost all of their basestock from Mobil but has a completely different additive chemistry. That's neither good or bad but Amsoil dealers always say they're better than Mobil. I would never suggest long drain intervals for a GT. The 2zz is hard on oil. Here's a link to a truly unbiased study http://neptune.spacebears.com/....html Neither oil would have made the TBN grade without the 5k filter changes. Granted that the test was with Full synth Amsoil 5w30 and not the 2000 product but the same can be said for the Mobil. 5w30 is Mobils weakest Viscosity and I'm sure that every Amsoil dealer has told customers that the 5w 30 would out last M1 also. Oh yeah, I'm not the one that wants to hire a lawyer if I have a engine related problem. Mine won't be as highly paid as Amsoils or GMs and Amsoil's not going to just write a check. The dealer is going to see a modified oil system and too few oil changes. Amsoil will claim(probably correctly) that the problem isn't oil related. There are warranties and laws and then there is reality. The problem would be left up to the dealer to fix under warranty. Good Luck. Flogging oil is one thing but really poor warranty info is over the top. If you want to use Amsoil, go ahead. It's great stuff but change it at 7.5k to hopefully keep GM happy. Just using Amsoil could theoretically void the warranty. They are not API certified and therefore not approved for use. Read the specs carefully. Amsoil says "recomended for" or "surpasses" API specs.

And how's that air filter doing. You know, the one that you said stops 100% of the dirt. And you call another member that makes perfect sense uneducated.

I don' t have the time. Need to go sell so more worthless Amsoil

Exactly what I'm getting at. Exaggeration. No one in this entire thread has said that Amsoil synth was in any way an inferior quality oil. Quite the opposite. It's one of a handful of superior oils.(with the possible exception of their faux synth XL7500). Extended drains during warranty is the issue here. Your Uni-Filter is quite good also but nothing has perfect filtration and it needs to be cleaned fairly often to mantain flow. Amsoil is clearly not worthless. Some recommendations may be.