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Commercial Rant (Mature)
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:34 pm
by Mr. Poopypants
OK, It's been a while, but it is high-time for a good rant. Do the "automatic tent pitcher" commercials bother anyone else? Cialis, Viagra, and the worst Levitra. There is a huge crackdown on indecency on TV, but some lady can sit there and talk about "the response (insert >boingANOTHER problem I have with these commercials."Erections lasting more than 4 hours, though rare, require immediate medical attention" 'NUFF SAIDOK, unless I think of more things to rant about, I'm done.*Disclaimer*This rant, in no way, is meant to be derogatory to any members or guests to this board, it is simply the view of Mr. Poopypants. The author of this rant understands that ED is a medical condition and is not trying to make light of this or any medical condition.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:42 pm
by ragingfish
I just have issues with drug advertising in general.The reason prescription drugs are so damn expensive in this country is due, in good part, to the fact they are allowed to advertise. When I went up to canada this past march, it was SO nice to watch TV for hours, and never see a single prescription drug commercial.The only people who should be aware of these things are doctors. The general public has no need to know about these drugs, since they're not qualified enough to know the ramifications of taking them, as well as, half the time, what they're even FOR!!!
Re: Commercial Rant (Mr. Poopypants)
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:42 pm
by ToolGuy
Quote, originally posted by Mr. Poopypants »ANOTHER problem I have with these commercials."Erections lasting more than 4 hours, though rare, require immediate medical attention" Man I would hate to have this happen I mean it would hurt bad after awhile.Anyway, yes I am a bit tired of these I mean the one with Bob waking around with a huge smile, pitching a tent! Come on! That in a way is making light of a serious med issue! What makes my wife mad is where are all the female drugs or drug product commercials? She does not need them but fair is fair...And these drugs have been out for awhile if anyone needs them they can ask a doc about them or do their own research, no need to market them as hard anymore IMO at least. Do I really need to see a commercial while at my dinner table every night?There is the Viagra NASCAR and it never stops! Kidding...
Re: Commercial Rant (Mr. Poopypants)
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:59 pm
by PhillyVibeGT
Quote, originally posted by Mr. Poopypants »"Erections lasting more than 4 hours, though rare, require immediate medical attention" 'NUFF SAID Ouch, that hurts just thinking about it. But in all seriousness, wouldn't you pass out from the lack of blood flow to the rest of your body by the time four hours rolled around?
Re: Commercial Rant (Mr. Poopypants)
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:02 am
by esjones
Mr. PP - You make several valid points, and I am in agreement with you on most of them. As a Libertarian, I am opposed to the government dictating what can or cannot be written, said, broadcast, sold, etc. But as a consumer, I see the advertising of prescription drugs (for whatever the condition) as being generally NOT a good thing.The drug companies are using advertising to drive up demand, drive up profits and urge people to "ask your doctor" about every new pill that goes on the market. This is leading to an explosion in the amount of $$$ being spent on prescription drugs. This is driving up healthcare and health insurance costs, in a time when there is greater movement to expand the government's role is paying for all this stuff. This, of course, leads to higher taxes for all of us, and the creation of a new entitlement class.I agree that the ads for the various ED drugs are pretty prurient in their approach, rather than medical. I'm not sure I'd call them "indecent" but they leave little to the imagination. The Viagara commercial with the "He's Back" tag line and the blue "V" for Viagara appearing behind a guy's head, looking like horns, DID cross the line, and was pulled at the request of the FDA. Not because it was indecent, but because the FDA said that it promised a return to youthful "performance" that was unsubstantiated and unrealistic.Did you know that some states are buying Viagara and similar drugs for their PRISON POPULATION? It is TRUE. Can you say "shower fun?" THAT is where these ads have gotten us.
Re: Commercial Rant (Mr. Poopypants)
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:06 am
by esjones
Quote, originally posted by Mr. Poopypants » And have you taken a close look at the Levitra logo? If you have, I think you know what I'm talking about. What do you see? A flame, as in "light a fire," or female nether regions? Or maybe there is another interpretation I don't see. I won't be the one to post a poll here, but I feel that someone might.
Re: Commercial Rant (esjones)
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:42 am
by Reynoma
Quote, originally posted by esjones » But as a consumer, I see the advertising of prescription drugs (for whatever the condition) as being generally NOT a good thing.The drug companies are using advertising to drive up demand, drive up profits and urge people to "ask your doctor" about every new pill that goes on the market. You are exactly correct about why a drug company would try DTC (Direct to Consumer) advertising for their prescription drugs. However, with AstraZeneca, ForrestLabs, Wyeth and other drug manufacturers competing against one another for business (because they all have drugs that treat the same problems), DTC is just another way of making the public aware that there are choices out there. If there was no DTC, then the public would fully depend on their doctor to make a decision for them. Do I want my decision to be made on the fact that the drug rep gave my doctor a nice pen so that he would prescribe the medication? No, I want to know that there are other choices.As for the specific ED drugs, I do find the commercials offensive, and they should only be shown after 9 pm.
Re: Commercial Rant (Reynoma)
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:36 am
by GMJAP
Quote, originally posted by Reynoma »Do I want my decision to be made on the fact that the drug rep gave my doctor a nice pen so that he would prescribe the medication? No, I want to know that there are other choices.As for the specific ED drugs, I do find the commercials offensive, and they should only be shown after 9 pm. I would agree with you on this, but I think advertising is the wrong way. I mean, do you remember all the drug names and what they're for, unless you already have a related condition? (ED drugs withstanding). In other words, when you're in the doctor's office and he says "you've got X, here's a script", what are the chances you'll remember all the available drugs? If you want to know the choices, do a little research once you're gonna be prescribed something. The Net is overflowing with info. And if you find something that your doctor didn't mention, and he doesn't have a good answer why not, then get another doctor.
Re: Commercial Rant (esjones)
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:55 am
by Mr. Poopypants
Quote, originally posted by esjones »What do you see? A flame, as in "light a fire," or female nether regions? Or maybe there is another interpretation I don't see. I won't be the one to post a poll here, but I feel that someone might.I was referring to the resemblence to the female nether regions as you put it (very PC, I like it)
Re: Commercial Rant (desert_dweller)
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:45 am
by redlava
Those commercials don't bother me much, and actually I find (or should I say used to find) the Enzite commercials funny. But I agree with most people drug companies should not be advertising on TV or in regular consumer magazines. I would defiantly leave that stuff up to the doctors. And if you really want to hurt the drug manufacturers, then by generic drugs not name brand. Less money in their pocket to make those retarded commercials.
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:47 pm
by kostby
One way to 'get even' is to purchase stock in the major drug manufacturers. Eli Lilly is an Indianapolis-based company. Corporate headquarters is just south of downtown Indianapolis at the corner of Cialis and Strattera, right next where the new Prozac- Field football stadium is going to be built.j/k
Re: Commercial Rant (Mr. Poopypants)
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:48 pm
by ColonelPanic
Quote, originally posted by Mr. Poopypants »I don't want to think about some old guy's general standing at attentionI shall revise my post with this simple statement:Ahh, I instantly think of the song "Underwear goes inside the pants." You know what's not natural? 80 year old dudes with....
http://www.lyricsbox.com/lazyb....htmlThey play that tune all the time on Sirius Alt Nation, I'm sure you've heard it at least once or twice, Poopy.
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:53 am
by zionzr2
Why do they advertise the phonebook???Everyone knows whats its for!!!Its FREE and arrives at your door at least once a year!!!
Re: Commercial Rant (esjones)
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:58 am
by Sputnik
Quote, originally posted by esjones »What do you see? A flame, as in "light a fire," or female nether regions? Or maybe there is another interpretation I don't see. I won't be the one to post a poll here, but I feel that someone might.I see both when I look at it. I thought I must be reading too much into it, but I guess not!
Re: Commercial Rant (Mr. Poopypants)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:22 am
by Mr. Poopypants
HUGE BUMP..Has anyone else noticed the obvious porn riff at the beginning of the Cialis commercials???
Re: Commercial Rant (Mr. Poopypants)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:41 am
by Mavrik
I hate commercials for the most part period but since moving to the states, yes, noticed a lot of "medical" commercials by so called "real people" that the only thing real about them is the fact they are not animated CG. What cracks me up is all those commercials boosting to remove your depression with a low sexual side effect, or other drugs that then list a long list of side effects you might experience making it sound better just to not have the side effects and suffer through the problem you "might" consider taking meds for...lots of sexual content on tv these days... whats worse though? sexual adds or violent adds for movies?
Re: Commercial Rant (Mr. Poopypants)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:48 am
by JohnC
LOL...very entertaining rant and thread. If you have strong opinionons on things like this by all means share them with the drug manufacturers, if enough people do not like it they will think twice about their comercials. On the other hand they have a right to free speech just like all of us.It is unfair to compare US drug companies to other countries drug programs. US companies do 95% of all drug research worldwide, a small amount of R&D is done in France and a few other countries, but the US consumer foots the bill for the world when it comes to drugs. So conceivably a couple old geezers with 4 hour pup tents and big smiles could find a cure for aides worldwide
Re: Commercial Rant (JohnC)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:15 am
by Mavrik
If your sportin wood for 4 hours, hope you took advantage of it
Re: Commercial Rant (Mavrik)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:19 am
by Mr. Poopypants
Quote, originally posted by Mavrik »If your sportin wood for 4 hours, hope you took advantage of it I would show everyone around me!!! "LOOK AT THIS!!! This thing is going on 4.5 hours.....is it supposed to be numb???"
Re: Commercial Rant (Mr. Poopypants)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:29 am
by gargoyle
Quote, originally posted by Mr. Poopypants »Do the "automatic tent pitcher" commercials bother anyone else? Cialis, Viagra, and the worst Levitra.Yeah, and the Valtrex genital herpes commercial is way outta line too!...and the worst part is they have a hot chick as the spokesperson/actress/Valtrex user... that's just wrong!... it's like putting strawberry cheesecake with whipped cream in front of you but telling you it has botulism!
Re: Commercial Rant (gargoyle)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:39 am
by Mr. Poopypants
Quote, originally posted by gargoyle »Yeah, and the Valtrex genital herpes commercial is way outta line too!...and the worst part is they have a hot chick as the spokesperson/actress/Valtrex user... that's just wrong!... it's like putting strawberry cheesecake with whipped cream in front of you but telling you it has botulism! Nice analogy!!
Re: Commercial Rant (Mr. Poopypants)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:51 am
by sloth
I didn't read all of the replies, as I don't have enough time. But I had to add a little rant about the FDA here.First I agree that the ads are inappropriate for tv. If someone is suffering from a condition they should take responsibility for their own health and research what is out there. Second the FDA should be bankrupting these companies that claim you can lose weight just by taking their drug.. Not going to happen, 2 ways to lose weight exercise more and eat less.Third, for the FDA to approve a drug for advertising it MUST be a poison. No matter what the benefits are of a product if there is no lethal dose of it the FDA won't approve it. No matter how good the product is, if it doesn't kill that rat it won't be approved and there fore can't be advertised.
Re: Commercial Rant (MiVibe-ToolGuy)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:09 am
by tnpartsguy
Quote, originally posted by MiVibe-ToolGuy »What makes my wife mad is where are all the female drugs or drug product commercials? She does not need them but fair is fair...You mean you've never seen the chick walking down the beach with her mom asking her what to do if she has an odor, 'down there'? Feminine hygine ads are horrible.... they show unrealistic situations (as described above) and use them to capitalize on a womens fears.....where will it all end????
Re: Commercial Rant (tnpartsguy)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:24 am
by Mavrik
Quote, originally posted by tnpartsguy »You mean you've never seen the chick walking down the beach with her mom asking her what to do if she has an odor, 'down there'? Feminine hygine ads are horrible.... they show unrealistic situations (as described above) and use them to capitalize on a womens fears.....where will it all end???? what?!? Women don't do that? MY GOD!
Re: Commercial Rant (PhillyVibeGT)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:06 pm
by AKLGT
Quote, originally posted by PhillyVibeGT » Ouch, that hurts just thinking about it. But in all seriousness, wouldn't you pass out from the lack of blood flow to the rest of your body by the time four hours rolled around?i will refrain from any comments on this....... although 4 hrs is a bit extreme.... perhaps 2 or 3..... can be fun.
Re: Commercial Rant (gargoyle)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:07 pm
by AKLGT
Quote, originally posted by gargoyle »it's like putting strawberry cheesecake with whipped cream in front of you but telling you it has botulism! you almost made me fall off the bed from laughing so hard!!! my side still aches....
Re: Commercial Rant (Mavrik)
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:09 pm
by AKLGT
Quote, originally posted by Mavrik »what?!? Women don't do that? MY GOD! um.... i used to play team sports and i can tell you that there are some chicks that when sweaty... really really stink (in many places). i can recall a few times telling one that perhaps some "deodorant" would be necessary. they do sell feminine deodorant and for some reason, there would be some miraculously show up in their locker the next day.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:12 pm
by ColonelPanic
Yuck.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:29 pm
by AKLGT
yep. Yuck.
Re: Commercial Rant (trdvibe)
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:01 am
by Mr. Poopypants
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Re: Commercial Rant (Mr. Poopypants)
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:50 am
by Mavrik
Quote, originally posted by Mr. Poopypants » hahaha love that one
Re: Commercial Rant (Mavrik)
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:27 am
by drunkenmaxx
these ads get by, yet when one of the women on the USA beach volleyball team is seen with a birth control patch on her shoulder while playing, she gets in trouble!!!
Re: Commercial Rant (desert_dweller)
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:48 am
by joholste
Quote, originally posted by desert_dweller »Only if your (removed) can hold about 6 or 7 pints of blood. wow that would be insane and very scary, i don't think a girl would want to be with a guy that large for sheer terror of being ripped apart, or having her heart be a punching bag
Re: Commercial Rant (joholste)
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:58 am
by drunkenmaxx
Quote, originally posted by joholste »wow that would be insane and very scary, i don't think a girl would want to be with a guy that large for sheer terror of being ripped apart, or having her heart be a punching bagis that why they keep dying on me?
Re: Commercial Rant (drunkenvibe)
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:29 am
by ColonelPanic
Quote, originally posted by drunkenvibe »is thaty they keep dying on me?You're such a heartbreaker, drunken. Literally!