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I just heard that the 1ZZ cams have been oficially released by crower. they also released titanium retainers as well. they offer a stage 1 which is slightly more power. a forced induction specific cam for all you turbo fans and they released a stage 2 & 3 N/A race only cam. they are very cheap and come with both the Intake and exhaust cam. I believe it was under $500 and around $400 for the retainers.

got a link?

Sweeettt!!!!! Thanks Lucky. Really appreciate the help that you're providing us with here. Inder

Here's Crower's Toyota listings, but no 1ZZ applications are shown:http://www.crower.com/cat/impo...shtml (Sometimes the website is an afterthought for bigger/older companies, so maybe they're just slow at posting the new info.)

Quote, originally posted by MadBill »Here's Crower's Toyota listings, but no 1ZZ applications are shown:http://www.crower.com/cat/impo...shtml (Sometimes the website is an afterthought for bigger/older companies, so maybe they're just slow at posting the new info.)If you email them you will get this response .....------------------------------------------------------------------Subject: Re: 1zz camshafts???Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:49:24 -0800Show Full Headers Back To [INBOX] See attached pdf file.Pricing is $438 for the pair, $356 for the spring and titanium retainer kit.Cams are new blanks (intake and exhaust), fully tested.Thanks for your interest in Crower,Crower Cams & Equipment Co Inc6180 Business Center CourtSan Diego CA 92154-5604 USAPhone: 619-661-6477Fax: 619-661-6466http://www.crower.comheres a poor screen shot of it that another celica owner made.

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here is the basics of what the attachment says.......___________________________stage 1: Street use with emphasis on bottom to mid-range power.....can be used with stock retainers and stock rev-limiter. RPM range idle to 7000+ rpm. Lobe Center 114 DEG. Duration is 268 / 260..... even though stock is 274 / 260......however, duration at .050" of lift stock is 204 / 195..... and stage 1 is 220 / 209Stage 2: Designed specifically for supercharger / turbo, and their Titanium retainers must be used with the cams.......duration is 262 / 262, and 211/211 at .050" of liftStage 3: Spring / Retainer kit required.....Designed for street/Strip NA engines....rev range 1000 rpm to 7800 plus......duration is 272 / 272!!! and at .050" of lift they are at 224 / 224....lobe duration is 112 DEG.STAGE 4, FULL RACE::: Spring / retainer kit required....RADICAL track use, requires ECU upgrade...rough idle....a gigantic 280 / 280duration at .010" of lift....and 232 / 232 at .050" of lift

if you look in the attachment there is no stage 4its stage 1stage 2 forced inductionstage 2 3/4 racestage 3 full race

i hit up monkeywrench about these they are shooting for febuary release.

That's cheap? A huge cam for my small block chevy is under $200.

Yeah, but there are over seventy million (I'm not exaggerating) other potential customers out there to defray the develoment costs of the Chey cam...

What kind of gains can be expected from using these?

Judging from the results of their other cams, and the results of cams from different companies, I'd hazzard the following estimation (NA applications):stage 1: +05%stage 2: +10%This, of course, is on top of your existing mods, meaning the actual numbers will depend on your current output.

crower said today that the cams are ready to ship right now. the retainers however are on a 2 week delay.

Good thing I live in SD! I can probably drive over there and pick them up!

Hey sorry to uproot an old thread but I have questions. I am interested in cams Inder suggested I get some. I have a 2003 base auto.Would I be able to get just the cams or would I need the retainers as well? Currently I have Borla exhaust and Cosmo CAI. I have learned the basics of internals already but I am just now starting to get deep into them so any info. you can give me would be great.

Depends, the retainers most likely just allow a tad bit more lift since they aren't having you swap out the springs. What's the stock max lift and the max lift of any of these cams?

Quote, originally posted by ShadowRuleZ »Depends, the retainers most likely just allow a tad bit more lift since they aren't having you swap out the springs. What's the stock max lift and the max lift of any of these cams?1zz big fella!

HOT DAMN!!! Mine are in the mail. Stay tuned...

Do open a new thread and PLEASE add a sound clip if possible. I'm curious to hear what the vibe would sound like at ideal with cams.Inder

Quote, originally posted by TRD4reel »Do open a new thread and PLEASE add a sound clip if possible. I'm curious to hear what the vibe would sound like at ideal with cams.InderThats a deal, will just need some eqipment and someone to host it. I'll find a way. I think the dyno guy may do it for me.

If you want, ask Nick, he hosted 2 of my videos.Inder

What about something for us 2zz guys?

awwww come on, you guys already have an extra cam lobe and gobs of hp out of the box Let us litlle 1zz guys shine some

They're complaining because of the fact that they got weak internals. Quit your whining GTer's. You shoulda got the base and FIed that.Inder

Like we've all got $3000 in our wallets and a car for winter.

Quote, originally posted by SoCalVibe »awwww come on, you guys already have an extra cam lobe and gobs of hp out of the box Let us litlle 1zz guys shine someCheers!

I am willing to bet though, after a cam install, intake, header, exhaust, midpipe, and ecu reflash, the base stick could easily keep up with if not beat a GT.Inder