Got Downloads? Who Here Downloads Music From The Net?

Vibe Rater · Post by **Vibe Rater** » Sun Nov 10, 2002 8:54 am

I do. Just wanted to start an off topic thread on this board about music downloads or any other P2P file sharing applications. I can offer some help or advice to people who may want to try it. Anything to do with downloading, ripping or burning music or other file types, drop it here. We're obviously all a smart bunch of coconuts, or we wouldn't have purchased a VIBE, am I right? If this too far 'off topic' for the moderators here, lemme know and I'll shaddup.

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Sun Nov 10, 2002 10:33 am

Hi VR, yes I do enjoy downloading MP3's. I like to use WinMX, Edonkey and Kazaa Lite. I also download SVCD rips and burn them to watch in my DVD player.

Post by **NSimkins** » Sun Nov 10, 2002 11:13 am

quote:If this too far 'off topic' for the moderators here, lemme know and I'll shaddup. That's what the Off-Topic area is for.. I use WinMX also (http://www.winmx.com). No spyware, etc.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Sun Nov 10, 2002 11:52 am

hm... i have a question. i havent looked real deep into this... but now that i have a cable modem im interested in downloading MP3s for free. im a little concerned about using Kazaa. with the online acceptance form your agreeing to pimp out your processor so they can sell computational power to 3rd parties. i dont want to connect my pc to the matrix quite yet. what are your thoughts on the best, least intrusive (and nosey) site to download from?

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Sun Nov 10, 2002 12:57 pm

quote:I like to use WinMX, Edonkey.check out emule, a lot nicer looking and nicer features than edonkey but it runs on the same network. (its actually using the edonkey backend..)

Vibe Rater · Post by **Vibe Rater** » Sun Nov 10, 2002 1:06 pm

quote:hm... i have a question. i havent looked real deep into this... but now that i have a cable modem im interested in downloading MP3s for free. im a little concerned about using Kazaa. with the online acceptance form your agreeing to pimp out your processor so they can sell computational power to 3rd parties. i dont want to connect my pc to the matrix quite yet. what are your thoughts on the best, least intrusive (and nosey) site to download from?Everything you say about Kazaa is correct and you should be suspicious. Use Kazaa Lite or WinMX. Don't touch Kazaa - only Kazaa Lite. Kazaa has spyware amongst other undesireable things. I believe you can still get KazaaLite at http://www.kazaalite.com and WinMX at http://www.winmx.com. If you can't find KazaaLite I can send the latest version to you.WinMX is Canadian, out of Windsor Ontario, so the blasted RIAA hasn't really set their targets on them yet. There are many others to choose from, but these two are the most popular right now with the best selection and the least intrusive.

Keely · Post by **Keely** » Sun Nov 10, 2002 1:37 pm

If you're using WinAmp as your MP3 player on your computer, I highly recommend a decoder that I found a few weeks ago called MAD MP3. It's free, but works ONLY with Winamp. After you've set WinAmp to use the MAD decoder rather than the built-in one, the sound improvement will literally blow your mind. I'm not an audiophile by any stretch (just a geek that likes her tunes and toys) but this is incredible.As for a download client, I use BearShare Pro. There's probably better clients out there, but I've been using BearShare ever since the dark days descended upon Napster and I've become very comfortable with it. When I purchased the license, it was cheaper than the current $19.95/6 mo. deal on now, but in any event even at current rates the elimation of pop-ups is well worth the money.When I find that an artist has more than two good songs on an album, I reward them by going out and buying their CD.

LocDog · Post by **LocDog** » Sun Nov 10, 2002 3:35 pm

Screw that.... IRC is the way to go, i build a computer in a drawer that sittin under my bed and i hooked it up to my network.Im downloadin full movies all the time, kazaa and winmx are just as played out at napster...

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Sun Nov 10, 2002 9:16 pm

IRC is great if you have time and want to expose yourself that much.. The advantage of the other systems is that they are a little more anonymous.. not perfect, but not as bad as IRC..A little paranoia is good for you

LocDog · Post by **LocDog** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:01 am

just get a decent firewall and u'll be ok... i set up my computers to go through a firewall protected router.

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:06 am

quote:just get a decent firewall and u'll be ok... i set up my computers to go through a firewall protected router.that's not what im worried about.. it's the fact that it's really easy to track someone down on irc.. whereas most of the p2p programs are build on the basis that the users dont want to be found..

LocDog · Post by **LocDog** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:13 am

You mean if they do a location search by your IP?

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:14 am

quote:You mean if they do a location search by your IP?yes

LocDog · Post by **LocDog** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:16 am

Bah... nothings gonna happen to you, i can do all that but that doesnt mean im gonna track u down and put a pillow over ur face while ur asleep...

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:24 am

quote:Bah... nothings gonna happen to you, i can do all that but that doesnt mean im gonna track u down and put a pillow over ur face while ur asleep... Hehe, its not people like you and me that im worried about.. i used to hang out in IRC rooms for a while until there were rumors about something big.. I got out and im out for good... I had a t3 and we were having fun, but its not fun when people get busted..I actually buy software these days Check out this link, it has some more info about what happened:http://www.cybercrime.gov/bandwidth.htm ... ttanay.htm

Post by **NSimkins** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:28 am

quote:i used to hang out in IRC rooms for a whileI used to live in IRC.. back in the days of the Free-Net's (anyone remember those??) quote:I actually buy software these days I think it's easier to download music using a P2P software app... I know some people that live on IRC.. and download movies. Personally it takes up too much of my time to even want to try to get anything on IRC anymore.And yes, I do also buy my software now.

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:36 am

quote:I think it's easier to download music using a P2P software app... I know some people that live on IRC.. and download movies. Personally it takes up too much of my time to even want to try to get anything on IRC anymore.IRC is too personal.. you give out your ip address every time you download something.. it was fun thou.. quote:And yes, I do also buy my software now. What is the world coming to? People like us turning honest?

LocDog · Post by **LocDog** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:39 am

Yea whats wrong with you..... why buy it when its there for free, thats why i have cable... I cant resist it with a 3 mb connection

Post by **NSimkins** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:40 am

quote:IRC is too personal.. you give out your ip address every time you download something.. it was fun thou.. I understand what you mean, but if someone really wanted to get your IP address using a P2P app, all they need to do is download a "sniffer" type of program that shows all activity going to and from their PC (including seeing you downloading their stuff). Just because you can't see the IP's in a P2P app doesn't mean they aren't there.But this way using a P2P app, it doesn't give someone an immediate description of you as if you were on IRC.quote:What is the world coming to? People like us turning honest? Most software app's are worth buying nowadays.. although I always question my morals when I have to buy a Microsoft app.

LocDog · Post by **LocDog** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:47 am

Don't worry, u give ur ip address away everytime you email someone, and the admins of this site probably have it too.

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:47 am

quote:I know some people that live on IRC.. and download movies. Personally it takes up too much of my time to even want to try to get anything on IRC anymore.Been there and done that....I quit about a year ago, received a letter from my ISP to remove files from my computer or face charges from Sony and lose my broadband connection. If you have a static IP address be-careful. I just download MP3's now with WinMx and yes I do buy software.

Post by **NSimkins** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:49 am

quote:Don't worry, u give ur ip address away everytime you email someone, and the admins of this site probably have it too.Yup, IP makes the Internet possible (the beauty of TCP/IP).Everything you do is logged somehow using your IP... websites, IM, e-mail, everything.

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:52 am

quote:Just because you can't see the IP's in a P2P app doesn't mean they aren't there.true, but there are probably legal loopholes you might be able to use, versus the feds having a conversation between you and some other people about what programs you are going to pirate this week quote:Most software app's are worth buying nowadays.. although I always question my morals when I have to buy a Microsoft app. tell me about it.. i just shelled out $2200 for a MSDN subsription.. ouch! (i thought long and hard about that one...)

Post by **NSimkins** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:55 am

quote:true, but there are probably legal loopholes you might be able to use, versus the feds having a conversation between you and some other people about what programs you are going to pirate this week Yup, I hear you there.OK, to get back to topic... How many MP3's do you people have in your collection??

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:57 am

quote:Don't worry, u give ur ip address away everytime you email someone, and the admins of this site probably have it too.very true. i do computer security work (firewalls, intrusion detection, penetratio testing (legal hacking , etc.) at work. It's amazing how easy it is to track someone down.it's getting real easy these days, anyone can do a google search for "FirstName LastName, City, State"..

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:58 am

quote:OK, to get back to topic... How many MP3's do you people have in your collection??Just over 4 GB.

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:02 am

quote:OK, to get back to topic... How many MP3's do you people have in your collection??LOL i knew someone was going to ask that Last count i had approx. 12,000 mp3's totalling somewhere around 45GB

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:04 am

quote: 12,000 mp3's totalling somewhere around 45GBHoly crap (ullbergm), LOL...I thought 4GB was alot.

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:06 am

quote: 12,000 mp3's totalling somewhere around 45GBHoly crap (ullbergm), LOL...I thought 4GB was alot. most of them are from actual cd's, not downloaded...Current stats:Total length of songs 4 weeks, 6 days, 10:24:32 Total size of files 44.44 GB Total number of songs 12158 Total number of albums 955 Total number of songs not in a album 0 almost 5 weeks of continous music, no song repeated (well, not counting things like "best of" albums)

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:17 am

OT: We need a chat room added to GenVibe web site.

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:19 am

Good idea, i think there is a thread somewhere about what the members want. post something in there to make sure the admins see it

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:37 am

quote:Good idea, i think there is a thread somewhere about what the members want. post something in there to make sure the admins see it I just created a new poll for a chat room. http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=1481

Vibe Rater · Post by **Vibe Rater** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:44 am

I always keep about a thousand on my hard drive and store thousands more on CDR in MP3 format. I guess about 5 or 6 thousand on disc. No country - there are only 2 kinds of music I can't stand - Country and Western. Oh, and no Celine Dion allowed either. Absolutely no guilt here. I never made a penny off of it. I burn a lotta Cd's for friends, but I don't charge for it. The RIAA are freakin' idiots. The number one rule in a battle is 'know your enemy'. With Napster, at least they knew who the enemy was and had a chance to control it. Napster even offered to work with them and offered a billion dollars to settle. Instead, they destroyed a brilliant product and spawned a revolution in file sharing. Now new P2P applications spring up every day, the next one better than the last. Looks good on em'. Viva la revolution!

Flip-Side · Post by **Flip-Side** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:15 pm

Yeah, you have to be careful nowadays. If you have a Cable connection...get a firewall, or download ZoneAlarm software firewall from www.zonelabs.com. I didn't have one and I got hacked. Everything gone save for a few viruses. The cable networks leave you vulnerable to attack. Set your firewall to tell you when a high level threat has been blocked, and you will see them happen right in front of you.Zonealarm is free and it works great, so why not?

Vibe Rater · Post by **Vibe Rater** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 12:40 am

NEWSFLASH! The new 3 Doors Down CD is out and at 'The Mall' (the really big mall). Very nice indeed. Go get it!CD is called 'Away From The Sun'.Song list:3 Doors Down - 01- When I'm Gone.mp33 Doors Down - 02 - Away From The Sun.mp33 Doors Down - 03 - The Road I'm On.mp33 Doors Down - 04 - Ticket To Heaven.mp33 Doors Down - 05 - Running Out Of Days.mp33 Doors Down - 06 - Here Without You.mp33 Doors Down - 07 - I Feel You.mp33 Doors Down - 08 - Dangerous Game.mp33 Doors Down - 09 - Changes.mp33 Doors Down - 10 - Going Down In Flames.mp33 Doors Down - 11 - Sarah Yellin'.mp33 Doors Down - 12 - This Time.mp3Great 'car' music. Enjoy!

Frosty · Post by **Frosty** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:13 am

quote:check out emule, a lot nicer looking and nicer features than edonkey but it runs on the same network. (its actually using the edonkey backend..) [begin dumb joke] Is edonkey backend the same as edonkey ***? Do you call it a backend because you can't say *** on the forum? [end dumb joke] Sorry couldn't resist. I haven't read off topic for a while. On the topic of how much music do you have, My daughter was concerned that her harddrive only had a couple gig's free space on her 13 G machine. I did a search of all the MP* files and she had 1/2 the drive full of music and movies. What is your favorite software for burning CD's these days?

Post by **NSimkins** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:22 am

quote:What is your favorite software for burning CD's these days? Ahead's Nero (http://www.nero.com) ... my favorite

Vibe Rater · Post by **Vibe Rater** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 9:53 am

Get the latest version at http://www.nero.com, then get the crack. I cans send you a crack if you need one. NERO is the best.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:40 pm

old thread Has anyone tried Napster now that it is back and legitimate? i keep seeing ads for it on TV, and they supposedly offer a two week free trial period. I may try it, but was wondering if anyone already had any feedback to offer on it.

Baltovibe · Post by **Baltovibe** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:59 pm

Haven't tried Napster lately. Just something about paying a monthly subscription fee that rubs me wrong. I usually use Wal-Mart for my downloads - no subscription fees.

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:03 pm

I used to use kazaa on my old computer until it crashed (wonder why?!?), so now I just use emule. It is kind of a pain in the (removed) though, so I may try winmx or something else. Anyone have any suggestions? Don't want to pay for kazaa lite.

ArcsVibe · Post by **ArcsVibe** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:53 am

I use Limewire here at the office and home (office iBook, home PC) and never had a problem with it. All the latest songs are on it, it even checks to see if the file is corrupted.

nismo · Post by **nismo** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:05 am

I use Areslite now. It works pretty well.

redlava · Post by **redlava** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:14 am

Dang old thread. I use Limewire. I have a little over 3.5 G. About 530 songs. Plus like 10 movies as well. I don't really DL a lot of "popular" music with it I usually look for less well known stuff and a lot of techno. I buy my share of CD's and such, but I am not going to buy a CD when there is only one or two good songs on it. I only buy when I really like the band or there is a minimum or three good tracks. Which is hard sometimes with the real high quality music we have now adays.

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:50 pm

Quote, originally posted by damronjr Â»I used to use kazaa on my old computer until it crashed (wonder why?!?), so now I just use emule.You know, my computer has gotten progressively worse since using kazaa. It won't even boot correctly anymore and it runs so slow. I have Norton Internet Security and update it regularly (weekly) and I keep up to date with the updates from Microsoft too. I've been considering just getting a whole new machine, but I like the one I have.I'd like to use some other free p2p file sharing programs and get kazaa off my machine, but I don't know which ones are good to use.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:55 pm

Proud user of iTunes! It ROCKS man!

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:58 pm

is iTunes free? And can I burn CD's from the downloads? I use iTunes to listen to streaming radio feeds, but I can't save the songs as they are played.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:06 pm

Quote, originally posted by Stang2Vibe Â»is iTunes free? And can I burn CD's from the downloads? I use iTunes to listen to streaming radio feeds, but I can't save the songs as they are played.$0.99 per song downloaded, $9.99 for most albums. No subscription fees. You can burn up to 7 identical CD's (you must reorder or change the track listings before you burn the 8th), download to unlimited iPods, and listen to your music on up to 4 computers. Each computer contacts the iTunes network to get "authorization" to play a song. As long as 4 or fewer machines are authorized, it'll auto-authorize and start playing. If you have more than 4, you have to deauthorize a computer before using another computer.And it's pretty easy to get around the DRM (I'm sad to say). All you have to do is burn the Protected AAC source files to a CD, then use iTunes itself, re-rip the tracks back to the PC in MP3 format, boom, free reign.

redlava · Post by **redlava** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:45 am

Limewire is free, and it is pretty good. I have used Winmx and Kazaa Lite also. Don't use Winmx, it is garbage now. Limewire, right now is one of the best in my opinion. You also have Bearshare, Grokster, and Bittorrent, to name a few. I tried Bittorrent, but it was real confusing because you had to log onto one of several webpages to have access to it and it took me a while to find one of them, and the website doesn't really tell you where to go. A few of my friends use it and they like it though.

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:53 pm

Quote, originally posted by redlava Â»Limewire is free, and it is pretty good. I have used Winmx and Kazaa Lite also. Don't use Winmx, it is garbage now. Limewire, right now is one of the best in my opinion. You also have Bearshare, Grokster, and Bittorrent, to name a few. I tried Bittorrent, but it was real confusing because you had to log onto one of several webpages to have access to it and it took me a while to find one of them, and the website doesn't really tell you where to go. A few of my friends use it and they like it though. I use http://www.torrentspy.com/ to find the bittorrent downloads. Works pretty good. I can download a new episode of Stargate in less than an hour..