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after watching Advent Children, I feel like digging out my old FF7 and replaying it. They did a tech demo of the FF7 opening sequence for the PS3 (but with no promises they would actually make the whole game) and WOW it was awsome. Gotta love backwards compatible.

Well, did anyone get one? I went to the Navy Exchange thinking I would be better off than Walmart or anywhere else. It opens at 9am and I got there at 8:15. I was #20 in line and they came out and said "Mr. Bill Gates and Microsoft has given us 13 systems, here is #13". Guess I'll be waiting a little longer , but I read somewhere that they are supposed to be releasing more each week.

yah i had the same issue last night when i went to pick up mine apparently microsoft cut their shipments in half. and so when i got to EB games they didn't have one for me, even though i'd paid for mine in full.... pooie

Someone on MO who works at Target' siad the next shipment isn't until mid-January! I read somewhere they were releasing them weekly. The exchange said they didn't know when they would get more.

this reminds me of the christmas when the N64 was released. i went to hell and back looking for one with my father. only one place had 1 one. we paid (HE, i was 14 or so) 310$. MSRP at the time 199$. it was the core system.when ever a new console is released right around christmas. havoc occours. maybe if you gys are willing to pay premium. ebay is sure to have some.

Well one of the microsoft guys openly announced they were not trying to do the "underproduce" for shipments like the gaming industry is known for. They are working 24/7 turning these out as fast as possible. I bet all your systems went to the launch. I watched that last night. Wow... like 3 FULL truck loads!

this x360 shortage imo is a joke. ive read enough and heard enough from MS and others that they were supposed to make plenty, but are making the shortage to gain demand and make people think they have to get it and pay the huge prices for bundles etc. they are going on ebay for 2500 or more...http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2...rtage/more theory for ya. look at best buy, they in duluth...yea duluth a small hick village that college kids keep alive had 40 units, while other places had half or less. AND any preorders yea...like 5 per store, so lame, preorders should be before retailers but alas no, they want hype. i think its all a scam from MS.

XBox for sale on eBay, CHEAP! It include 2 games and an extra controller. Awesome deal:http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-...wItem

360 with games is going on e-bay right now for over $1000... how insane are people to want it that much????

ahhh microsoft must be loving this. blue - lol (removed) who would pay 9g for a 400 dollar unit 100 worth of games and 100 for controllers... man i should of waiting in line last night just to sell it on ebay.

At the launch they had a airplane hanger FULL of people and everyone there left with a 360 xbox. There was a huge line up at Best Buy in Seattle, New York and some place in cali on G4 live footage last night. Not sure why there was over one hundred people in line at those locations. Come on seriously. You think that the odds of any of the first 10-15 people in line would pass up getting the system after all and so would the next 30 or so people so that you way back there at the back of the line of a 100 could get one? Heck no... you wouldn't catch me out there. The PS2 launch, I had already bought and paid for mine which confirmed I'd get it. I was 1-3 at Whiteoak's EB store in London out of 5 people in total to get one opening day. The store even opened early for the three of us already there to get ours. But I sure didn't make a big show of "WHOO HOO I GOT ONE!!!" when I left. Thats asking to be mugged lol.

This reminds me of 5 years ago when the PS2 came out. The shortage, the hype, the idea that the company is purposely keeping a low supply to increase demand, outrageous Ebay sales, etc. Seeing them sell so highly on Ebay makes me think I should have tried to pick one up to sell LOL.

Quote, originally posted by BlueCrush »XBox for sale on eBay, CHEAP! It include 2 games and an extra controller. Awesome deal:http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-...wItemOne just sold on eBay for over $5000http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...99391

i would say that is a scam he is preselling one he doenst have yet. but hey if you are stupid enough to pay 5000 for one i wouldnt think you would be smart enough to read that.

yea i could sell tons of x360s' too!!

man, i really feel stupid. i should've camped out last night. bought one, sold it for a few grand more.man!! missed out again.

Quote, originally posted by JustinVGT »I'm all for competition, it just makes everything better for us. After working for Gamestop for the last 8 years, I would have to agree with justinVGt.

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »ahhh microsoft must be loving this. If I were Microsoft I'd be hating this as they already are being sold by them for only $400, whereas people are making more than twice that on Ebay. Imagine them realizing what they could have charged for them when people are making $$$ off of them.

$399 is pushing the limits of what the masses will spend on a system.And with 3rd party games being $59.99 now it really stretches peoples budgets. Microsoft want millions of systems in houses, you cant price a system to high or that wont happen. Where microsoft is making the $$ is off all the 1st party controllers, play and charge kits, and such.

Well I'd never pay $5000 for a system. Heck thats a nice down payment on a house or an STi. As for games costing $60 USD... well welcome to the canadian market. In ontario, most video games go from $64.95 PLUS 15% tax at Walmart to $75+ at EB Games not including tax. So for me... $60 on a game USD is not a price thats unreasonable. As for a new system, I'm sure the PS3 won't be less then $400 either. I'll buy one regardless of the retail cost when it comes out. Its got launch titles I can't do without lol. I spent $450 CAD plus tax when the PS2 launched a couple of years back.

well, the craze has gone down. he most they are selling on ebay is 900$. still inlfated but resonable considering it's sold out everywhere, plus the extreme high demand.i still want one.

One of my cowrokers just came in a said he was #6 in the line I was in and got his. He got there 45 min before I did. If I would have left 20 min earlier I would be playing mine right now!

I went to Best Buy yesterday to pick up a DVD and looked at the 360 demo again. I was more impressed and saw some footage/trailers on G4 tv last night. It looked pretty good. I wouldn't mind having one, but I already have too many PS2 games that I need to play. I don't see how all those people bid on that one auction above for $5200 for the 360 and the guy didn't even have it in stock. I mean, I could just post an auction and say I'll ship it when I get it in stock (which would mean me just finding one at store eventually). That just seems unbelievable, the $800-1000 range sounds a lot more reasonable, although I would never even pay that.

A friend of mine and I paid three 17 yr olds $100 (total not each) to spend the night at Target. We got 3 core systems (premiums were gone) and we sold them on eBay (got $2000 total). After all is said and done (taxes, fees, shipping, etc) we should end up with about $800 profit.Not really what we expected, but we also planned on getting the Xbox 360 premium edition and not the core systems.

Xbox is already having problems!! http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox...u.phph ... t=392599Ha, Ha, Ha! Figures for a Microsoft Product. Didn't everyone know that yesterday was the beta testing launch? Ha, Ha!Glad I have my PSP!

yup. really seems like they rushed the shipments.i'm still getting one. beta versions always have bugs.imagine the fools that paid thousands of dollars. lol

This is out of hand, there are still ones in the store here at cc, and what is the rush anyway they will get many more in before Christmas. I am waiting for the PS3, never been impressed with the xbox.

Quote, originally posted by Toolman »This is out of hand, there are still ones in the store here at cc, and what is the rush anyway they will get many more in before Christmas. I am waiting for the PS3, never been impressed with the xbox.PS2 will actually have launch titles... I looked over all 18 games on the xbox. Like... 2-3 are Xbox exclusive... the rest you can pick up on the PS2 and PC.what probs are the new 360s having? Websense blocks those xbox forums on my work computer.

it seems they are crashing. some thought it was aoverheating problem, but isn't. it just resets itself, shuts off, or go into a "error" screen. i don't know how many are infected. but a few have sprong up with these issues.

i havent read my self but i hear the power supply is overheating the video card thus..reseting and broxoring it

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »i havent read my self but i hear the power supply is overheating the video card thus..reseting and broxoring it I find this hard to believe as the ones they have on display in the stores are run nearly 24/7!

Quote, originally posted by damronjr »I find this hard to believe as the ones they have on display in the stores are run nearly 24/7!Except the ones in walmart - they jam their wireless inventory equipment. (har har har!)

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »i havent read my self but i hear the power supply is overheating the video card thus..reseting and broxoring it the power supply in the xbox 360 is external (and huge). they went external in order to shrink the size of the console itself, as the original xbox was subject to much ridicule due to it's excessive size (it's nearly twice the size of my HDTV cable box). you can see pictures of it here. i've yet to have any problems at all with mine, and i've given it quite a workout with both kameo and tony hawk. i've read a few different stories like this where folks have had problems with one game or function, but not others.

thats why i said i only heard, from a friend that likes xbox. if i read it i would of posted a link. the first xbox has a issue with its power supply as well, so i wouldnt doubt MS might screw up again pstwo had a external psu that had a recal as well

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »thats why i said i only heard, from a friend that likes xbox. if i read it i would of posted a link. the first xbox has a issue with its power supply as well, so i wouldnt doubt MS might screw up again pstwo had a external psu that had a recal as wellhthe original ps2's psu is internal, but the gamecube has an external A/C brick. i suppose the new "thin" ps2 has to have an external power supply though, i'm not sure where they'd put it otherwise. the external power supply for the xbox 360 is almost even more absurdly large as the original xbox itself was. it connects to the console itself via an interface not unlike those used on PC motherboards (actually very similar in appearance to the GX power supplies used in 2U servers back before they all became hot-swapable).i'd not put it past MS to have shipped a defective product. i for one am happy to have not had any issues with mine. the rumblings i hear about different sorts of issues continue to spread, and i'm really curious as to what is going to be done about it. there's already a mechanism in place for distributing xbox 360-compatible software through microsoft's website (the system used to distribute the necessary software for playing original xbox games). hopefully if they have to release a fix, they take their time and do it right (it's okay to laugh, i had to giggle when i wrote that), so it's just a one-time thing. the last thing i want in my living room is a console that needs to be patched once a month.oddly enough, the reason i was so willing to be an early adopter with the 360 was that microsoft defied all of my expectations and had a smooth release of the original xbox. i still haven't had any problems, so i'm not too concerned yet, but we shall see.

Quote, originally posted by jwalcik »hthe original ps2's psu is internal, but the gamecube has an external A/C brick. i suppose the new "thin" ps2 has to have an external power supply though, i'm not sure where they'd put it otherwise. the external power supply for the xbox 360 is almost even more absurdly large as the original xbox itself was. it connects to the console itself via an interface not unlike those used on PC motherboards (actually very similar in appearance to the GX power supplies used in 2U servers back before they all became hot-swapable).i'd not put it past MS to have shipped a defective product. i for one am happy to have not had any issues with mine. the rumblings i hear about different sorts of issues continue to spread, and i'm really curious as to what is going to be done about it. there's already a mechanism in place for distributing xbox 360-compatible software through microsoft's website (the system used to distribute the necessary software for playing original xbox games). hopefully if they have to release a fix, they take their time and do it right (it's okay to laugh, i had to giggle when i wrote that), so it's just a one-time thing. the last thing i want in my living room is a console that needs to be patched once a month.oddly enough, the reason i was so willing to be an early adopter with the 360 was that microsoft defied all of my expectations and had a smooth release of the original xbox. i still haven't had any problems, so i'm not too concerned yet, but we shall see. yea the ps2 is the big old playstation 2 with the psu inside, the pstwo is the slim line version with the psu outside of it.im glad no one i know here or anywhere has had a issue with their x360, wouldnt want the house to burn down or a broken xbox when theres hardly any available. ya for playing xbox games you can either have the thing downloaded from live, download and burn a cd to load it or have ms send it to you for a "minimal" fee.

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »im glad no one i know here or anywhere has had a issue with their x360, wouldnt want the house to burn down or a broken xbox when theres hardly any available. ya for playing xbox games you can either have the thing downloaded from live, download and burn a cd to load it or have ms send it to you for a "minimal" fee. i'm quite impressed with their system for backwards compatibility, especially since the original xbox wouldn't even read burned audio cd's.i actually had problems with my ps2 about 3 weeks after launch. they were still quite scarce on retail shelves, but they overnighted me a brand new unit as a replacement. the difference between that and the xbox360 launch however is the fact that they'd already been selling the ps2 in japan for what, six months when they released it here?

Quote, originally posted by jwalcik »the power supply in the xbox 360 is external (and huge). they went external in order to shrink the size of the console itself, as the original xbox was subject to much ridicule due to it's excessive size (it's nearly twice the size of my HDTV cable box). you can see pictures of it here. i've yet to have any problems at all with mine, and i've given it quite a workout with both kameo and tony hawk. i've read a few different stories like this where folks have had problems with one game or function, but not others. I was browsing the xbox.com's forums - apparently the lightning rod for anyone who's been told they'll need to send in their D.O.A. XBox... people are fuming. But the thread count is still rather low considering the numbers in the hands of people now.I think we'll be seeing a lot of smaller devices with big external power supplies - I don't mind it really - they're easy to hide behind whatever I'm putting the device in/on.The Mac Cube did the same to make it look small and cute... I think a lot of the iMacs do this as well. If they 360 is pumping out the specs that I read - I wonder if the PSU (power supply unit) it uses has some heat disipation problems - every PSU I've had in my computers has been air cooled.

im surprised the power unit doesnt have fans lots of laptop psu's get super hot, if ps3's is on the outside ill be rigging up a fan system for it 1. so its cooler and doesnt burn out 2. because im nerdy like that as for backward compatibility it would suck to test, they have to do it by hand, loading in the game and trying it out...oh wait...id hate to have to play games ALL day and getting paid

No problems with mine yet *fingers crossedThe power supply does get pretty d@#% hot... been putting it through the ringer with NFSMW, Call of Duty 2 and Kameo. I think my roomate has been running it since 11pm last night and it's 8:30pm now, won't be surprised if he burns it up for me (then he can buy me a new one). He's had his a$$ sitting on my couch for nearly 24 hours playing my xbox... not sure how to get him off the couch and off my 360, any ideas?

a naked chick or food... oh oh wait! install a wireless power button to the x360, i did it to my xbox and then if he wont get off just turn it off...hahahha

good point north vibe;)

Quote, originally posted by Toasted7 »No problems with mine yet *fingers crossedThe power supply does get pretty d@#% hot... been putting it through the ringer with NFSMW, Call of Duty 2 and Kameo. I think my roomate has been running it since 11pm last night and it's 8:30pm now, won't be surprised if he burns it up for me (then he can buy me a new one). He's had his a$$ sitting on my couch for nearly 24 hours playing my xbox... not sure how to get him off the couch and off my 360, any ideas?dude, you really just need to make point that it's YOUR XBOX. if you don't let it be known that you don't want him playing it all the time, he's going to walk all over you. he seems to just want it for his use. he might even start getting adidcted and you wanting to be a nice person, won't make him get off. meanwhile you want to play. tell him that he'll have to pay renting fee. i mean, it's not a cheap. you paid good money.better yet, put it in your room. i've dealt with roomates that like to smooch. put your boundaries up beore problems come around.

AAHH finally the proof x360 is overheating and the gpu/cpu isnt processing the graphics.Heres the overheating AC unithttp://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox...Y.phpHeres the missing graphicshttp://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox...k.phpmore overheating thinghttp://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2...x-360/i all see that someone was running MCE apps from the pc to the x360...neat!

Quote, originally posted by mcgusto82 »man, i really feel stupid. i should've camped out last night. bought one, sold it for a few grand more.man!! missed out again.My bro went out to Frys the morining it came out at like 5am and he bought 2 of them. The bad thing is there was only a limited amount of the big package with the hard drive so he eneded up getting the smaller package. Either way he has 2, one we play with and the other he thinks he might sell for the right deal.

I don't know if this has been posted yet, I don't follow the video game scene but someone at work was talking about this tonight so I had to dig it up. http://www.smashmyxbox.com/download.phphahaha!!!

reading in USA today, there was an article about 360's and their short supply and demand. according to MS, the defect percentage is less than 3%. 3-5% is the expected (acceptable) marging for new toy products. they also went into how they are planning to supply them. instead of making a ton of them and selling them on relase day. they are going to be suppling them on weekly basis.so basically, the isn't a shortage. by the end of this week, MS claims a nother load of them will be delivered. maybe it'll sell out, maybe it won't. i expect it too sell out. i'm considering making business of one this time around.

yea its just MS marketing scam so it looks sold out and make people think they "have" to buy it cuz its the most sold out , coolest thing.

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »yea its just MS marketing scam so it looks sold out and make people think they "have" to buy it cuz its the most sold out , coolest thing. Yeah, they didn't get to where they are at today by developing quality products... It's all about the marketing.

Quote, originally posted by ColonelPanic »Yeah, they didn't get to where they are at today by developing quality products... It's all about the marketing. sorry, i happen to like MS. i've never liked MAC x at all.i used to use it in school. graphics design was the ony porpous for me using it. at home i'd rather windows.