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Re: (Kari)
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:14 am
by millster
Quote, originally posted by Kari »"No way to connect a printer"? Please. Have they ever heard of a thing called USB? LOL Guess not. It's a joke. I saw it on Macslash or Slashdot, one a week or so ago. If you read the other articles on the site, they're all about the same. However, I had a few choice things I would like to have said to that writer, no less.
Re: (millster)
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:13 am
by ColonelPanic
whew! I was gonna say... If it were true, sure looks like that guy spent more time FIXING his Windows machine than he actually was able to spend USING it. lol!
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:07 pm
by rasermon
Re: (rasermon)
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:44 pm
by ColonelPanic
Great stuff! So far, I've downloaded Opera, GIMP, Ogg Vorbis plugins, Open Office, various other things... Gotta get all I can while I'm at a place with broadband, sure don't want to be downloading all that stuff over dial-up. Now, time to sit back and wait for 2-3 weeks for the thing to get here. Which I have a feeling is going to kill me!
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:34 pm
by Kari
Oh I am so looking forward to you two getting your Mac Minis...I can feel it, you're turning into Mac people already. When I bought mine just so I could work on my stuff for school, where we were using Macs exclusively, I never dreamed I'd switch and NEVER go back. But now you couldn't pay me to take a Windows machine, much less buy one myself. Looking for software already and haven't even placed the order yet... (removed)
Re: (Kari)
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:22 pm
by ColonelPanic
I don't think I've ever really been this excited about getting a new computer... In the past, it's always been something like "oh, wow, it's... a new computer..." I've already got a little bit of software. And I'm playing around with itunes at work trying to figure out what music i'm going to buy once I do get the Mac.
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:18 am
by ColonelPanic
Decisions, decisions... What to do about input devices?The mouse, I'm covered. I've got a Logitech USB optical wireless mouse that I love dearly. Keyboard, ugh... The one I have now is both PS/2 and USB so it may work... But I don't feel right getting a Mac and using a keyboard with a Windows logo on a couple of the keys. It's bad enough not running Windows but still having to have a Windows key on a regular PC. LOL!Seriously though, I'd like some sort of Mac-specific keyboard so I can have the added bonus of being able to eject the CD from the keyboard. Any suggestions on your favorites? I can't stand the ergonomic split keyboard design, just give me something flat and I'm good to go. CompUSA has the standard Apple flat keyboard for $30, I'm going to stop by tonight on the way into work to check it out and see what else they may have...
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:24 am
by millster
As far as Mac specific goes, I prefer the genuine Apple ones. If you want to save a little money though, Kensington would be a good choice. I have a Kensington Studio mouse that I love. Their keyboards aren't too shabby either.That said, you can eject from any keyboard using the F12 key. If recall, Windows is Command (Apple), Alt is Option and of course, F12 is eject.
Re: (millster)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:30 am
by ColonelPanic
Oh, cool! How well would it work the other way around, i.e. Mac USB keyboard on a PC? Thinking in terms of what would happen with a KVM switch.I like the Apple keyboards as well, from what little I've used them. I'm definitely going to buy one of those, who knows what other type.
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:36 am
by ragingfish
Honestly, I think a mac would have been the ideal computer for my parents...BUT...they're so used to PC's and the hassles they'd endure of converting files between PC/MAC (along with not having a floppy drive ) they're probably better off with their Dell.
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:36 am
by millster
Seems to work fine. The Command key maps to the Windows key, Option to Alt and Control is universal.(I typed this message on my Apple Extended USB keyboard attached to my Gateway)
Re: (ragingfish)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:40 am
by millster
Macs are great for people who don't want to fuss with maintenance constantly. The file conversion bit isn't as big of an issue anymore, with OpenOffice or MS Office. But, there is the issue of learning a new interface. For someone who is not real comfortable with a computer, that change can be daunting.
Re: (ragingfish)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:53 am
by ColonelPanic
Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »Honestly, I think a mac would have been the ideal computer for my parents...BUT...they're so used to PC's and the hassles they'd endure of converting files between PC/MAC (along with not having a floppy drive ) they're probably better off with their Dell. It can be a challenge! If I didn't know much about computers, it would probably be a bit rough for me as well. Even those who have been using PC's for years will still have quite a period of adjustment to contend with. And admittedly, I'm among that group. Messing around in Linux, I kinda know what goes on behind the scenes of OS X, but everything else will be completely new to me. I've used Mac OS before, but not on a massive scale.On the flip side though, it could be a good thing for some people... As I was reinstalling Windows on my sister's XP box for the second time in a year, my sister finally says "I think I need to get a Mac. But they cost too damn much!" So, I did a little sales pitch to her about the Mini, mentioned I was considering one , yada yada yada. I'll bring that baby down and let her try it out to see what she thinks. Her not being very computer literate, sometimes it's difficult for her to get along with the machine. And with something different, she may not have to bug me as much for technical support. Walking someone through the registry over the phone, well, just sucks. So we'll both win.
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:24 am
by ColonelPanic
Well, got the keyboard...
http://www.compusa.com/product...EARCHIt's kinda weird! But in a good way. Tested it out at work on a windoze box, works perfectly. Everyone here loves those MS Natural keyboards, so needless to say, they weren't impressed. Gonna hook this puppy up as soon as I get home! Now, KVM switch and that's about it...
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:26 am
by millster
Great! Congrats. Eh, the MS Naturals are nice, but I prefer to have an Apple keyboard with my Macs. Maybe Apple will come out with an ergo eventually.
Re: (millster)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:46 am
by rasermon
Like I said in a earlier post I'm going with the Apple Pro Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. I just found out that the Apple Wireless Mouse has only one button. That's not right! One Big Button Mouse! That could really screw things up for me. I always knew there was something different about you Mac people.
Re: (rasermon)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:48 am
by millster
Quote, originally posted by rasermon »I always knew there was something different about you Mac people. You're right, there is.We're so efficient we only NEED one button.
Re: (rasermon)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:48 am
by ragingfish
one button?ONE BUTTON?ONE BUTTON?!?!?!?!?!?how do you survive???
Re: (ragingfish)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:52 am
by rasermon
Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »one button?ONE BUTTON?ONE BUTTON?!?!?!?!?!?how do you survive???This is the Apple wireless mouse. Now tell me where is the button?
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Re: (rasermon)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:56 am
by ColonelPanic
I felt a couple of those up at Comp USA. The top of the entire mouse is the button I do believe.There are two indentations on either side - I thought they were 2nd and 3rd buttons, but are kinda in the wrong place. You could push them in though... On the demo Macs there, I don't think they did anything. Maybe they don't, I dunno...And we don't need more than one steenkin' button... We got command key! Although I'm gonna stick with my two button mouse with scrolly rolly thing.
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:47 am
by Kari
No, the parts on the sides don't do anything. They are actually the parts of the mouse that *don't* move when you push it down. Otherwise, you are correct, the whole mouse is the button.However, you can put a multi-button mouse/trackball/whatever on your Mac and it will work just fine. I have a wireless Kensington 6-button mouse with a scroll wheel.
Re: (Kari)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:51 am
by ColonelPanic
Oh! I didn't play with them enough, I guess. I do remember pushing on the whole thing though and click!
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:02 pm
by rasermon
So, it's one big button.
Re: (rasermon)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:31 pm
by Kari
Yes, basically. You can hold down "control" and that's the same as a right click with the one-button mouse. Or you can buy a different mouse with more buttons.
Re: (rasermon)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:31 pm
by ragingfish
Quote, originally posted by rasermon »This is the Apple wireless mouse. Now tell me where is the button?I think I see it on the side...
Re: (rasermon)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:32 pm
by ColonelPanic
Absotively, one big button!
Re: (ragingfish)
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:37 pm
by Kari
Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »I think I see it on the side...Nope, those are some sort of grips, which I found useful for times when I had to pick up the mouse while holding down the button, because they don't move when you click.
Re: (Kari)
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:01 am
by rasermon
Re: (rasermon)
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:08 am
by millster
Quote, originally posted by rasermon »Why Apple Makes a One Buttoned Mouse!Hmm... you know, even after all the times I've been through that exact same procedure: Me: "Right click on the desktop and select properties"Them: "Right click or left click on properties?"I never even considered it might have something to do with Apple's stubborness. They might be on to something there.
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:15 am
by ColonelPanic
Hmm, Mini in a PC case...
http://www.appletalk.com.au/articles/miniserver/Clever, definitely. But you're sacrificing the Mini's cute looks for a bit of expansion. Why I like the Mini - it's cute and looks like it can go with you everywhere. So, no chance in me ever doing this mod... lol!Now, a Mini's case with PC guts... That ain't too bad...
http://www.kevinrose.com/index.../191/
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 5:19 pm
by ColonelPanic
*drooling all over the place tonight* The mini is on its way! Shipped on the 26th, estimated delivery date is the 1st! That's tomorrow! (note to self - pay rent.) Right now, it's somewhere in Harrisburg, PA. I have to work Tuesday night, so somebody is going to be sleeping on the couch so I can hear the fed ex guy banging on the door.
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:58 pm
by rasermon
Great news James.I should be placing my order this week. I also expect a full report later this week from you.
Re: (rasermon)
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:49 pm
by ColonelPanic
I know! I'm still pretty darn tickled about it. Ask and you shall receive, so you bet a detailed write-up with the strenghts and weaknesses is in the works. I didn't expect it this soon, so I still haven't purchased a KVM switch! I may see if CompUSA or somewhere like that has any deals. In the meantime, the Linux box here in the living room will have to go without a monitor. That's why we have VNC anyway, I'll connect to it through the mac if i really need it. lol!
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:40 pm
by millster
Congrats man! Can't wait to hear your opinion!
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:09 pm
by ColonelPanic
Rats... Just checked to see the whereabouts of this thing. Still in PA! The estimated delivery date has been bumped up until tomorrow. Oh well, I've gone this long without it. Maybe tomorrow will be a better day!
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:06 am
by ColonelPanic
I knew this thing was small... I've read about it, checked out pics, but I've gotta say... Despite knowing what I was getting, somehow I'm still in awe over the size of this thing!My lil' diecast Vibe hangs off the edges on both sides! This is SMALL! Hard to believe there's a computer in there! The mini is mighty dang cold, so I'm going to go grab a cup of coffee for myself and let this thing warm up for a bit, then hook it up in a little while.I'm so happy! This thing is gonna rock, I hope.
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Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:16 am
by ColonelPanic
Up and running! The silence here is eerie. Not a peep from the mini - nothing, nada, zilch... I had to throw a cd in the thing so i can hear something other than silence. So far, I'm pretty dang impressed. This thing is wonderful, easy to set up and get up and running. Time to play around, but I'll write more about it later.
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:32 am
by Kari
And you won't hear that CD spinning for too terribly long either...that's the best part is the silence.
Re: (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:19 am
by rasermon
That is small, but can pack a good punch. I'm looking forward to ordering one soon. Actually I'm looking forward to learn and operate the mouse or button. How is it with just 256MB of memory?
Re: (rasermon)
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:28 am
by ColonelPanic
It's actually a bit zippier than my AMD Duron 1600 linux box (256 MB.) I haven't done much with it yet - playing music, cruising the net, chatting - the bottom of the barrel mini is capable of all that without a hiccup. I still have to get The GIMP and stuff like that installed, and have yet to mess around with any of the ilife apps. But I'll let you guys know!I'm bringing it into work tonight. Shutting down now to pack it up.
Re: Mac Mini? (ColonelPanic)
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:19 am
by tnpartsguy
OK, I finally did it.....I own a Mac Mini as of today. We had been to the Apple store in Nashville several times, because my wife REALLY wanted a new powerbook, but in the end couldn't justify the $2,200 pricetag. She had already sold her iBook 500, so we were out of the Mac world. (in the past I have owned a iMac (Blueberry), but I hated it, because it wouldn't upgrade to play DVD's, and it broke a few months after we got it....I finally gave it to Goodwill.After all our trips to the Apple Store, I kept playing with the Mini's.....and decided we needed another Mac. I really liked the iCal, and dashboard features. Got the 1.42Ghz, 512mb, 80 gig HD, with Airport Extreme and Bluetooth. So far I like it.......
Re: Mac Mini? (tnpartsguy)
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:21 am
by Kari
Yay for owning a Mac again! Welcome back
Re: Mac Mini? (tnpartsguy)
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:45 am
by ColonelPanic
Woo hoo! Get your (removed) in gear and write that dang review that I've been too lazy to ever bother to write! Your mini is better than my mini. I've got the cheapie, but I did invest in a couple of putty knives and a stick of 512 MB DDR. Welcome back to the dark side. It's a good place to be.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:29 am
by tnpartsguy
I'm kinda upset right now, Palm hasn't bothered to get their software to work with 10.4, and I was planning to use my old handspring Visor to introduce my address book and stuff to the MiniMac (Codename Luna), but it won't work. Any ideas Macmaniacs?
Re: (tnpartsguy)
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:12 am
by Kari
Back when I first switched, I had a lot of problems syncing my Palm because they hadn't bothered to support OS X yet and were still in Carbon OS 9. I ended up calling Apple tech support and they had me unplug and replug my USB cable for the Palm after launching the software, and it worked then. Is the software not installing at all or it just won't recognize the device?
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:57 am
by tnpartsguy
it seems to be installed ok, I can get the palm desktop ok, I just can't get sync.
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:43 pm
by northvibe
go get the mighty mouse now!!!

dang i love mac's they friggin rule. its nice that one of my roomies has a powerbook and her bf has a ibook so i dont totally feel left out in the house if my parents g3 powermac dies soon, ill get them a mac mini.congrats on the purchase! now mod it overclock that sucker
http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/macmini/here colonelpanic you too can have a 1.42ghz mac mini
Re: (northvibe)
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:52 pm
by ColonelPanic
Whew! I'll pass on modding my lil' mini. It scared the hell out of me to hear the plastic *CRACK* as the putty knives went to work on the sucker trying to crack it apart for the RAM upgrade. The bottom of that thing hasn't looked the same since. A wee bit chewed up to say the least. *sigh*
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:02 pm
by tnpartsguy
I found a fairly inexpensive solution. Outlook2mac. It's $10 and works pretty good.
http://www.littlemachines.com/
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:19 pm
by ColonelPanic
Heh, check out this nice auction. Quote, originally posted by some dude on ebay »Opened the box, opened the case, overclocked the logic board, fired it up. It ran for all of five minutes -I'm fairly sure the CPU got burned. No, I'm not the smartest guy ever.All of the other parts have been tested good with another Mac Mini.ha ha ha! Yes, I shall not overclock my mini.