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Quote, originally posted by kcinmi »GMJAP... Im not disputing what you said, because frankly I dont have a clue. but got to thinking...If the indash changer has a AM/FM button, and a CD/AUX button, and the Aux2car actually uses the CD/AUX button on a single disc OEM stero to enable it...why wouldnt it work? I understand that the gm stereos have two aux inputs built in, and the indash changer uses one of them, but if the stero has the AM/FM button and not the band button, do you think GM is using the input that would otherwise be used for XM? Leaving the second input attached to the CD/AUX button open?That would be nice..... the problem is that in the 6CD in-dash changer, the changer electronics are actually seperate, and are hooked to the basic radio electronics as a Class2 changer. The AUX2CAR works on the single units by mimicing a CD-changer. In the 6CD, this function is taken up by the internal changer. (I couldn't tell you why it's done this way, and where is the input that the single-CD uses; I just know that it is.) Thus AUX2CAR can't be used in this manner- as it can't be used at the same time as an external changer. I've actually tried it on an "AM/FM" 6CD this way.Thus, to use it with the 6CD, it must be in "XM" mode, which requires the BAND button. It you search for the thread with the User Manuals in PDF, both the 2004 and 2005 show the 6CD with the BAND button. Which is why I'm confused that they don't seem to be coming that way. Also, I've seen the 6CD units in other GM vehicles with the "BAND" button. I wasn't aware of all this when I bought mine, so I didn't pay attention to the other Vibes on the lot....Here's one from a Gran Prix - they have others also:http://www.mnrelectronics.com/pa10grpram6d.html

Quote, originally posted by GMJAP »Which is why I'm confused that they don't seem to be coming that way.Maybe they were trying to exhaust the supply of 03 radios in the start of 04? *shrug*

Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »Maybe they were trying to exhaust the supply of 03 radios in the start of 04? *shrug*Yea, that's why I was asking if it had the SCV or "AUTO VOL" button - that was new on the 04/05's. I went to the Pontiac site "build your own" - it looks like it's impossible to order the 6CD and XM radio. Maybe they orignally planned on supporting both then nixed it after the manuals came out? I dunno. Strange things are afoot at the Circle K, Bill.

Well, here are the scans of the stereo diagrams from my 2005 Vibe Owners' Guide. These diagrams are EXACTLY identical to every radio I saw in the 10 or so cars I examined on the lot. There are two radios as far as I can tell for 2005 -- I assume the Navi system is different as well, but the manual does not have any diagrams for that.Of note is that the SCV or "AUTO VOL" button is not present on the 6-Disc model .... and the manual says it "has no function" on the single CD model.This is the 6-Disc Changer ....

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And just in case this wasn't confusing enough -- LogJam says this "dongle" cable "Works in vehicles with or without a "BAND" button, Works with radios that have the 6-disc in-dash CD changer option, Works with vehicles equipped with either the factory XM tuner, or the factory CD changer."It also leaves this caveat, "Fits following Vehicles: (when equipped with "Class 2 - RDS" XM Satellite-or CD changer-ready factory radios w/12- and 24-pin connectors)" -- BUT DOES NOT LIST THE VIBE!!! GRRRR ....http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piegm12aux.htmlSo bottom line -- is there ANYONE out there with a 6-Disc In Dash (Not NAVI) that has an Aux device working?

Better still -- LogJam shows this product works with ONLY the 2005 Matrix both single CD and 6-Disc In-Dash and is a totally different pinout still ...http://www.logjamelectronics.com/pietoy03aux.htmlWHAT IN HOLY BLOODY BALLS IS THE DEAL!!! There is an engineer or marketing guy or beancounter somewhere that needs a severe flogging!!

The 05 Matrix switched to a genuine Toyota radio. It no longer uses the Delphi radio...This is the one for the 04/05 Vibe:http://www.logjamelectronics.com/soundauxgm.htmlBut it specifically indicates you MUST have the BAND button (NOT AM/FM) to use it.

Quote, originally posted by cknight725 »Well, here are the scans of the stereo diagrams from my 2005 Vibe Owners' Guide. These diagrams are EXACTLY identical to every radio I saw in the 10 or so cars I examined on the lot. There are two radios as far as I can tell for 2005 -- I assume the Navi system is different as well, but the manual does not have any diagrams for that.Of note is that the SCV or "AUTO VOL" button is not present on the 6-Disc model .... and the manual says it "has no function" on the single CD model.How bizarre! I'll have to scan and post my manual - This is very different! Both my 2005 Vibe and a family member's 05 Vibe single-CDs do not have the SCV button - that's where the RCL button is. Also, they DO have the BAND button, unlike the 2003 models.Scan & posts this evening....

Allright, it makes sense to me now.

Okay.... here are the scans from my 2005 user manual. The 6CD very definitely shows the "BAND" button, and the text (on later pages) discusses the BAND button.The 1CD shows the "SCV" button like you mentioned, with the text saying it doesn't do anything. However, as noted previously, my 05 1CD and a family members both have the RCL button there.A 2004 User Manual PDF I have shows the same things.They must have made a last-minute "decontenting" change, or something is messed up. I was hoping to get an 04 or 05 6CD for my Vibe, so I could use the BAND button to access an AUX for MP3. But maybe they don't exist??

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Hi,I've been reading this thread (here and there, since it is very long!) but I was basically searching if we could use the 12 pins plug aside the main HU plug to connect some sort of line-in input directly. From what I read so far, it is not possible without adding a thing such as the Aux2Car unit. Am I right saying this? I have a Vive 2008 with the standard HU. A search on Google show me that such a unit (Aux2Car) cost around 75$. Wandering if, at that price, it is not much more interesting to buy an aftermarket HU that have line in directly, and maybe even iPod control directly. Some of those (line-in especially) comes on sales for 99-150$ all the times! There may be a need to have a plastic adaptor for them (There're smaller that the stock HU normally) and maybe even a in-car plug adaptor, as I guest this is non standard either.Thanks