Poll: Help us pick a new car

nygiantzz1 · Post by **nygiantzz1** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:12 am

We are selling my wife's 05 Kia Optima. There is nothing wrong with it at all. It runs great, but in her words "Its an old lady car, not sporty enough". I can afford around 18,000.00 without getting upside down on the loan. So, listed below are the possible replacements. What would you buy?

tcam · Post by **tcam** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:25 am

Can't go wrong with the TC But try to get your wife into modfiying it too. There's sooooo much aftermarket support for that car

GrayFox · Post by **GrayFox** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:47 am

The Tiburon is a sexy car but I think overall the tC is better

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:53 am

tC all the way! It looks great stock and like tcam said there is a huge aftermarket for it if you decide you want to mod it.

tnpartsguy · Post by **tnpartsguy** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:41 am

tC every time. The G5 is just a warmed over Colbalt, and I personally hate them. The Huyndai is a ok car, but it still won't hold it's value like the tC will.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:10 am

tc looks much better IMO

ajflan · Post by **ajflan** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:29 am

KNINE · Post by **KNINE** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:36 am

Can you hear the chant? tc...tc...tc...tc...

nygiantzz1 · Post by **nygiantzz1** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:10 am

I've been leaning toward the tC, I have to get her to drive one, hopefully this weekend. We already drove the G5 and crawled around a Tiburon. She really likes the Tiburon but it has no back seat room at all. I'm hoping this poll helps sway her a little. As far as modding, she is more concerned with appearance than performance, so any mods would be cosmetic. I'll be doing enough modding for both of us once the Vibe is out of warranty.

ajflan · Post by **ajflan** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:25 am

You can definitely have a lot more aftermarket fun with the tC.

WaveAction · Post by **WaveAction** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:05 am

i personally love the G5..my buddy has a G5 gt sedan and it looks real nice and sleek..good gas milage..good hp 145 i think

tangerine · Post by **tangerine** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:37 am

Scion TC + Turbonetics Turbocharger and your set.

Whelan · Post by **Whelan** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:44 am

I'd go with a Tiburon GT V6 w/ the 6speed. I am not a fan of the Tc, they to me are like little *******s that run around and kick you in the knee. Not to mention the sides of that car look way to high for the size of the windows and stuff. Just oddly shaped.Besides its faster

ramenboy... · Post by **ramenboy...** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:58 am

i'm with whelan. i like the gen2 and 3 tiburons. they're hot lookin cars AND they've got a v6. can't beat that

moongdss · Post by **moongdss** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:11 am

Why is no one voting for the Vibe?? I say get another Vibe

Whelan · Post by **Whelan** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:26 am

Quote, originally posted by moongdss »Why is no one voting for the Vibe?? I say get another Vibe Probably cause its due to be an all new car come end of year.

nygiantzz1 · Post by **nygiantzz1** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:31 am

The Vibe is a big reason why she wants a new car. She loves the way it drives but not crazy about the looks. She really wants the Tiburon. I want her to drive a tC and look at the G5 again for comparison. In the end, it's her decision, I'm just making sure she compares a few different cars in the same class before we spend the money.

tangerine · Post by **tangerine** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:44 am

Tiburon=

Whelan · Post by **Whelan** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:03 pm

Quote, originally posted by tangerine »Tiburon=It's the fastest car of the group, and looks SEXXXY

ColonelPanic · Post by **ColonelPanic** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:14 pm

-100000 on the tc, yuck... Tiburon all the way, especially with the '07 restyle. I've always liked the Tibby ever since the beginning, well maybe with the exception of the '00-'01s that had more lights on the front than the family truckster. But the '03+ has always been pretty nice to look at, I'm glad they didn't make that much of a change with the overall design for the restyle. I used to want one, but now I guess I'll probably never end up with one, it's just too dang impractical. But sometimes not having the capacity to haul people around can be an added bonus. lol!Get the SE, cool stuff like painted calipers, cross drilled rotors, and a nifty engine torque gauge.

Whelan · Post by **Whelan** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:06 pm

Quote, originally posted by ColonelPanic »-100000 on the tc, yuck... with the exception of the '00-'01s that had more lights on the front than the family truckster.

tangerine · Post by **tangerine** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:45 pm

I think you may be the first person to ever call a tibby sexy...lol.

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:49 pm

Quote, originally posted by Whelan »metallic pea, what a nice color!

djb383 · Post by **djb383** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:23 am

Ok, I'll be the party pooper. If I understand you correctly, you have 18 grand burning a hole in your pocket and the wifey is driving a late model '05 that's in great condition, probably has low miles and maybe still under warranty. Dayum, lots of people would like to be in your shoes.How about this option, keep the '05, that's in great condition, for four more years. Invest the 18 grand in a top quality growth mutual fund(s) that should make 12%. At the end of four years you'll have a 6 year old car that's still worth something (and probably paid for by then) and a little over 28 GRAND in cash value. Take part of that cash, along with the value of your 6 year old paid for car and buy a newer 1-3 year old late model vehicle with cash and trade-in value. If you re-invest the remainder of the cash (like the original 18 grand) it's very possible to drive late model vehicles the rest of your life WITHOUT any car payments. See, I told you I would be the party pooper but hey, it works.

Whelan · Post by **Whelan** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:44 am

That man is smarter than Jesus, I'm thankin him from now on when I score!

nygiantzz1 · Post by **nygiantzz1** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:45 am

I actually have nothing burning a hole in my pocket. The 18K I refered to is the amount I can afford to finance without going upside down on the loan. We owe about the same as trade in value on the Kia, so trading the Kia pays it off and we start over. This is all about timing and getting my wife something that she will be happy driving.

djb383 · Post by **djb383** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:33 am

Quote, originally posted by nygiantzz1 »I actually have nothing burning a hole in my pocket. The 18K I referred to is the amount I can afford to finance without going upside down on the loan. We owe about the same as trade in value on the Kia, so trading the Kia pays it off and we start over. This is all about timing and getting my wife something that she will be happy driving. Ok, I mis-understood, so try this one on for size. The average car payment today is $378. The "future value of regular deposits" of $378/month, for 48 months, in a top rated growth mutual fund (again 12%) is a little over $23 grand at the end of 4 years. The point of this is, if your wifey was willing to drive her present late moder car for 4 more years, you could invest $378/month in savings that will appreciate in valve, rather than spend $378/month on a car payment for a car that depreciates in value. I guarantee to you, more chins will drop when they here you paid cash and don't have a monthly car payment than from what kind of car you bought.

nygiantzz1 · Post by **nygiantzz1** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:00 am

That's excellent advice if I actually had that money to invest. Regardless of whether we kept the Kia or traded for something else, I still have the car payment. If we keep the Kia-4 more years of payments. If we trade it- 5 years of payments. In either case, I got a car payment to make.

djb383 · Post by **djb383** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:42 am

Ahhhh, but there is a way out. You may not like it but it will work. Keep the car for 8 years. Pay it off in the next 4 years and start saving the last 4 years. Lots of people drive 10 year old cars. Let's face it, a car is a means of transportation, not an investment. During the next 4 years you'll probably get some nice big fat raises so you can pay the car off early and start saving sooner. Let's say, for example, pay the car off in 3 years and save for 5 years. The "future value of regular deposits" at 12% for 5 years on $378/mo is, are you ready, $30,871. Wow, that's some cha ching. Keep doing it that way and you can buy a $30,000 car every 5 years and never have a monthly car payment again.

VivaVibe · Post by **VivaVibe** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:17 am

Well, the question is not performance or mods, and it's not finances. If the reason for changing cars is to get one that "looks" more sporty, then it would have to be the Tiburon or maybe the Vibe. The others on the list don't "look sporty" at all to me.

tangerine · Post by **tangerine** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:25 am

*cough* TC *cough*

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:30 am

holy poop, that turbo is almost as big as the engine!

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:19 am

Love the plate hahah!

tangerine · Post by **tangerine** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:52 am

That TC makes me wanna build a lil TC for giggles. The motor is being proved to be able to handle 16PSI stock, up to 12 PSI safely with stock fuel system and putting out arounf 230whp with 9psi. SO much aftermarket out now for those.

djb383 · Post by **djb383** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:15 am

Quote, originally posted by drunkenmaxx »holy poop, that turbo is almost as big as the engine!Yeahhh, wonder how quick (or not) it spools up?

tangerine · Post by **tangerine** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:08 am

Quote, originally posted by djb383 »Yeahhh, wonder how quick (or not) it spools up?Full boost@3500 RPMs Quote »Power output: 244 WHP 262 ft/lb Tq Boost pressure: 8 PSI

djb383 · Post by **djb383** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:41 am

Yep, 3500 engine rpm alright but not the turbo's rpm. My guess is upwards of 75,000-100,000 rpm for it and all things being equal, the bigger the wheel, the more time it takes to spool up.

tangerine · Post by **tangerine** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:20 am

Here is another Turbonetics dyno. The Turbo isn't as big as it looks, its just a small engine bay...

ColonelPanic · Post by **ColonelPanic** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:17 pm

Quote, originally posted by tangerine »I think you may be the first person to ever call a tibby sexy...lol. Uhh, no, not the first time someone has said that... The Tib IS sexy.Besides, can your Scion do this? Now THAT is what I call modding...

tangerine · Post by **tangerine** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:09 pm

wow...poor Ferrari.

808 Vibes · Post by **808 Vibes** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:56 pm

Have you checked on what would be the least in cost for insurance, fuel consumption and safety?

Whelan · Post by **Whelan** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:18 am

I'd still say thats a large turbo by any means. What's a Tc 160 stock. So 84hp by the numbers. Stock vs. stockTiburon SE6speed2.7L DOHC V6172hp181ft. lbs.Tc5 speed2.4L I-4160hp162ft. lbs.The Tiburon SE is a slightly faster car in the 60, 1/4 and has shorter braking. Not to mention with that V6, you can most likely get more hp without doing too much crazy work on internals and such. Thus saving you money on mods and upgrades. Sure you can have a 250hp Tc, but it most likely would need a lot of stuff such as new rings, manifold, exhaust, pistons, etc. to be able to handle the power and boost constantly and be a daily driver, not just a show car. The Tibby would probably fair well with a bunch of mods without having to go insane with replacing internals and fuel pumps and such. Just seems easier to me if its gonna be your wifey's car and you want it to be sport, look good, drive quick, and last!

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:11 am

the problem with both of them is that around here, they are both chick cars. of course, since he's getting it for the wify, that's ok.

nygiantzz1 · Post by **nygiantzz1** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:28 am

It's looking like it may be the G5 GT - 2.4l, 173hp, 163ft lbs.We just made an offer on an 07 with leather, auto, sun and sound, power everything and Onstar. I'll let you know later tonight if we get approved for financing. We drove a lot of cars this weekend: G6, Grand Prix, Tiburon, Scion Tc and Toyota Camry. I liked the 06 Grand Prix (3.8l Supercharged) the best. She's in love with the G5 GT. It's her choice and from an economic standpoint, probably the best one. Here's a link to the car we're hoping to get: http://www.wedekindcars.com/in...3839#

Whelan · Post by **Whelan** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:39 am

GTPs are fun cars for sure!Whatever she gets, she better love it first, cause thats the big kicker. The G5 is the same as the Cobalt and Ion respectively. I'm surprised the GT model only has 173 and is not like the Cobalt SS or Redline Ion with the 200 supercharged. I guess they are saving that for when they give those cars a nice bump and slight redesign and drop the new power into the GXP version of the G5. Good choice either way, I'm sure she'll love it.P.S.- Not so much the Tiburon, but the Tc is def. seen as a chic-car around here.

tangerine · Post by **tangerine** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:44 am

Quote, originally posted by Whelan »I'd still say thats a large turbo by any means. What's a Tc 160 stock. So 84hp by the numbers. The Tiburon SE is a slightly faster car in the 60, 1/4 and has shorter braking. Not to mention with that V6, you can most likely get more hp without doing too much crazy work on internals and such. Thus saving you money on mods and upgrades. Sure you can have a 250hp Tc, but it most likely would need a lot of stuff such as new rings, manifold, exhaust, pistons, etc. to be able to handle the power and boost constantly and be a daily driver, not just a show car. The Tibby would probably fair well with a bunch of mods without having to go insane with replacing internals and fuel pumps and such. Just seems easier to me if its gonna be your wifey's car and you want it to be sport, look good, drive quick, and last!Thats almost double the Hp with 8 PSI. Thats WHP not BHP. As for needing alot of mods to daily drive, go browse Turboneticsownersclub a bit and read up on'm. Stock internals on daily driven cars pushing upwards of 20PSI. Cars safely running stock fuelsystem with 10+ PSI. If the Tibby wants my love they need to release the V8 tib they were blowing steam out their butts about.

tangerine · Post by **tangerine** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:46 am

glad you found a car you like, good luck with it.

nygiantzz1 · Post by **nygiantzz1** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:39 am

It's now official, At 4;30pm tomorrow, my wife will be the proud owner of a 2007 G5 GT Coupe. Thanks to all for your input. I was hoping she would like the tC, but it just didn't appeal to her. I also had to resist every urge to talk her into the supercharged Grand Prix that I fell in love with. I did accomplish what I set out to do, put her in something she would be happy with. Again, thanks for all the advice.

tangerine · Post by **tangerine** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:40 am

Congrats!

Whelan · Post by **Whelan** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:00 am

If they came out with that V8 Tib I would seriously consider selling my Trix.

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