GM VOLT

[scherry2]

I want one!!! http://news.windingroad.com/te...-4227

[ZubenElGenubi]

VOLT = Very Optimistic; Likely TrivialorVery Obtuse and Lacking ThoughtorVictim Of Losing to ToyotaYou will never see this vehicle - or anything remotely like it - coming from GM within the next five years.

[Raven]

The front looks very much like the new Camaro.

[scherry2]

Quote, originally posted by ZubenElGenubi »You will never see this vehicle - or anything remotely like it - coming from GM within the next five years.don't be too sure.

[Lancer]

I already see it in the Saturn Sky.Not very original in form and in name.

[scherry2]

Volt on an electric car, how can that not be original.

[savedbyzero]

The proportions look off to me.

[KNINE]

CHARGER was already taken. Get it, CHARGE-ER? No, not funny?

[northvibe]

if they actually make this which i hope they do, its a good start to getting the EV/hybrid cars going. If its cheap enough it would sell well to, there is no lack of support and willing buyers for cars that are high mpg and low emissions

[ZubenElGenubi]

Quote, originally posted by ZubenElGenubi »You will never see this vehicle - or anything remotely like it - coming from GM within the next five years.Quote, originally posted by scherry2 » don't be too sure. Oh, I'm pretty sure. You obviously didn't read the initial article from the same site:http://news.windingroad.com/co...today/Quote, originally posted by Winding Road.com »So… when can we expect production? Not so fast, Sparky. Production hopes for the Volt (or something like it) depend on the ability to economically mass-produce the car’s almost 400-pound lithium-ion battery. Such cells aren’t likely to be production-ready until 2010-to-2012.I stand by my original assessment and statement.

[mcgusto82]

Quote, originally posted by ZubenElGenubi »Oh, I'm pretty sure. You obviously didn't read the initial article from the same site:http://news.windingroad.com/co...today/I stand by my original assessment and statement.That's only 3-5 years. Not far off...

[scherry2]

Quote, originally posted by mcgusto82 »That's only 3-5 years. Not far off...what he said.

[scherry2]

a new article out,http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.../1014 and I know ZubenElGenubi stands by his original assesment and statement.

[ramenboy...]

i like it...the wheels, though, kinda remind me of a radiator fan

[northvibe]

oh they are still super stuck on hydrogen even though it will cost TONS of money and that technology is no where near what normal people can afford. The gas/eletric is the way to go now and probably will be for the next 10 yrs. The automakers are in bed with the hydrogen fuel cell and the detroit autos all have LARGE amounts of money dropped on hydrogen. uhhh see they still want you use use a gas station..not your own homes ac power tisk tisk how does the volt only get 20mpg on battery? thats worse than DIY EV's which usually get 50.

[ColonelPanic]

Saw this thing at the NY auto show.Heh, that's a mighty long cord it has hanging down there. That's sexy! Other pics:

[WaveAction]

it looks alright..i wouldnt buy it though...and i do agree with sunny..the front does have a similar look to the camaro concept

[northvibe]

if that was a IC and eletric motor id totally buy that, well if it was awd or fwd, winter would suck with rwd my next car is going to be a hybrid i think.

[high revin]

Wha ta train wreck of a design, no wonder GM is struggling to keep its head above water and there future is this crap, Im a Huge GM fan and i will never buy another new GM ever no thanks!

[Kari]

Quote, originally posted by high revin »Im a Huge GM fan and i will never buy another new GM ever no thanks! Interesting. Wouldn't that make you the opposite of a GM fan now though?

[high revin]

Yep and the only reason i bought my Vibe was that its all toyota! lol Not a new GM fan way to many poorly designed cars over the last few years in execution and design and quailty real shame because i love my chevys have plenty of classic hot rods and Im just not sold on the new direction GM has went the last few years only reason i didnt by a matrix is the body only is way better looking on the vibe

[TJinPgh]

Just a quick follow up on this story.In an article in Autonews (via leftlanenews.com) dated yesterday, GM appears to be moving full steam ahead with plans to produce this car by around 2010.They plan to offer 2 versions of the car. One a traditional gasoline engine (or, perhaps a hybrid). The other a hydrogen fuel cell.I would think the gasoline version of the car is a realistic possibility for 2010. Not sure about the fuel cell, though.They estimate engineering costs at aroung $500 million.No word on the cost of the car, of course. Probably a "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" type of thing.

[ZubenElGenubi]

Regarding the Autonews story, 2010 is the same date that GM has bounced around before:Quote, originally posted by freep.com »Fuel cell vehicles' only emission is water, and GM says it is working to develop a vehicle that costs no more than equivalent traditional internal-combustion propelled vehicles as early as 2010.At the Detroit auto show in January, the Volt concept was built around an E-flex electric-drive system that used a lithium battery that can get its charge from an onboard generator that runs on gasoline or other fuels, as well as being plugged into an outlet.Both versions of E-flex are dependent on technological advances that haven't yet been achieved: a safe, durable and affordable lithium battery and a system for loading hydrogen onto a vehicle. (Zuben's emphasis)Because of those needed advancements, the company hasn't put a production date in place for either E-flex vehicle.This is what's known as The Emperor's New Clothes syndrome.

[TJinPgh]

well, like I said, I wouldn't doubt the gasoline version may be ready by 2010. I have doubts about a fuel cell version, though.

[BLAQJAQ]

lo..these will never see the road cause gm does not like perfomance cars....corvette is just..that a corvette....

[jimincalif]

Quote, originally posted by TJinPgh »In an article in Autonews (via leftlanenews.com) dated yesterday, GM appears to be moving full steam ahead with plans to produce this car by around 2010.I would think the gasoline version of the car is a realistic possibility for 2010. Not sure about the fuel cell, though.They estimate engineering costs at aroung $500 million.I hope they succeed. I love the concept. Most days of the week I'd never need the engine. And it would still have the range for longer trips.For half a billion, I hope this is not just another electric car concept being tried for political reasons, that eventually runs aground on the limits of battery technology. If they are serious, this is a really good sign, they are shooting for something new and better, rather than just playing catchup.

[KNINE]

Taken from Autoextremist:After getting hammered by the media during and after the Detroit auto show for touting its Chevrolet Volt as the Next Big Thing - even though they admitted that lithium-ion battery technology was actually not there yet to build the car - GM has accelerated the Volt product program dramatically, according to a report in Automotive News. GM has allocated funding, engineering development work is ongoing, the next-generation Delta architecture has been selected, and an actual production date of 2010 has been targeted. The significance of the Volt is that it is a fully electric vehicle with an internal combustion engine used only for charging the batteries. The Volt is designed to go 40 miles on a single charge, and it can also be plugged in overnight. GM suggested at the show that it's conceivable an owner who drives within the limits of the Volt's range might never have to buy gasoline for it except for longer trips. A hydrogen fuel-cell version will come later. It's no secret why GM has suddenly gotten serious about the Volt. With a daunting increase in fuel economy standards inevitable, they will need the Volt to be a real live product program. It's also a signal that GM has decided to not wait around for outside factors to determine what they do and where they go in the market. It's nice to see real conviction coming from a Detroit automaker for a change, especially GM. If Detroit is ever going to get off of the mat, it will have to do it by delivering technological leadership. At this point, nothing else matters.

[NascarXprt]

on the streets by 2010http://www.leftlanenews.com/sh....html

[drunkenmaxx]

so what, every gasket in the car will explode upon use, it's gm...

[northvibe]

if GM didnt stop with the saturn ev cars they could of had some crazy sweet technology by now. i will be very interested when this comes out though

[KNINE]

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »if GM didnt stop with the saturn ev cars they could of had some crazy sweet technology by now. i will be very interested when this comes out though I agree. GM would be so far ahead of the curve right now. They could Toyota to shame as far as building green cars. GM should be kicking themselves!

[tangerine]

Can GM's upcoming cars get any uglier? The only decent thing they have upcoming is the G8 and its not even built by them. My loyalty with General Motors is wearing thin.