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what is this and is it dangerous

Post by radioarno » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:21 pm

I jacked up the front side of my 04 vibe this evening to change to winters and on the driver side I just couldn't get it high enough. Dropped the jack (not the scissors jack, but a hydraulic jack) and looked underneath. The jack point had collapsed completely, I assume due to rust, and I saw just forward of the failed jack point a rusty hole. I want to know how dangerous this is, what the part is called, and how much its going to cost me to fix if I have to fix it.
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Re: what is this and is it dangerous

Post by zbyers » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:04 am

Hard to tell from those pics as they are pretty zoomed in. But they look to be the pinch weld of the rocker, especially if it is at the jack point.

Since these cars have a unibody, the rocker panels & associated pinch welds are kinda considered structural. Your best bet is to take it to a local shop and have them put the vehicle on a hoist to see how much other rust the vehicle has.
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Re: what is this and is it dangerous

Post by radioarno » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:11 am

thanks

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Re: what is this and is it dangerous

Post by SeattleJeremy » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:11 pm

I agree with zbyers, you're going to need a pro body shop to look at that.
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Re: what is this and is it dangerous

Post by tpollauf » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:29 pm

zbyers wrote:
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Hard to tell from those pics as they are pretty zoomed in.
Yeah a zoom out pic would be helpful to see where this is located on the car. I'm pretty sure I know where BUT better pics could verify
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Re: what is this and is it dangerous

Post by radioarno » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:04 pm

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okay here's better pics. DRiver side, at the jack point. I"m not super concerned about the chassis unless you guys tell me i should be concerned. i'm more concerned about the hole in the un dercarriage just ahead of the jack point. please take a look and let me know. i have no money these days, can't do body work. Need to know what i may face down the line. I bought this car in july to help me get a job, and it hasn't worked in getting me ajob yet. thanks much.
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Re: what is this and is it dangerous

Post by Jbenrod » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:11 pm

I think you know that is pretty advanced corrosion (rust) and will be expensive to repair. At the least you need to treat it now to slow the spread. You can spend some time reading up on the different options depending on how much you value your Vibe.

I would recommend this product for something like that: CRC 06026 Heavy Duty Corrosion Inhibitor. You can get a 4 can pack for under $40 that would treat the underside. There are many other products as well that you could also use, but at least do something now to try and slow that down.

Your post serves as a reminder that we all need to be checking the underside once a year and treating it for any developing corrosion.

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Post by zbyers » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:51 am

Jbenrod wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:11 pm
I think you know that is pretty advanced corrosion (rust) and will be expensive to repair. At the least you need to treat it now to slow the spread. You can spend some time reading up on the different options depending on how much you value your Vibe.

I would recommend this product for something like that: CRC 06026 Heavy Duty Corrosion Inhibitor. You can get a 4 can pack for under $40 that would treat the underside. There are many other products as well that you could also use, but at least do something now to try and slow that down.

Your post serves as a reminder that we all need to be checking the underside once a year and treating it for any developing corrosion.
Jbenrod pretty much nailed it. Definitely need to address it sooner than later using some sort of corrosion slower-downer.

If the hole is in the floorpan itself, then you should be able to poke through it to the carpet. In that case, your best bet is going to be to cut out the bad spot and have a replacement piece welded in. That is what I did with this spot that is directly under the drivers seat.

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Depending on your location, this could still pass inspection if you have it; or if no inspection not be an issue. It IS a safety issue, but is still drivable in the interim.
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Re: what is this and is it dangerous

Post by radioarno » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:53 am

Okay I'm going to stop messing around. I have an appt next Friday with a mechanic to get the car up on a hoist and have pros look at it. They're not going to charge me anything to look at it. Thanks for telling me it's potentially serious.

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