Nose out vs nose in is kind of a big debate. Many places have rules forbidding you from parking nose out. The reason is that there's no warning before the vehicle starts to pull out of the space. The white reverse lights on the back of cars are a safety feature.BenWA wrote:Being parked nose out is safer when you go to leave. No risk of backing into a person or another vehicle you didn't see in your mirrors. The drivers manual in some states tell you that you should park that way whenever possible. The hatchback has to be opened to load stuff, so lots of space to the rear of it makes perfect sense. It also saves you a bit of fuel, not having to back up.
That's in angled parking spaces along sides of streets, not in big parking lots like that photo. I have seen just off street places where they REQUIRE you to back in, not go in nose first! There is one nearby where I live as I recall, having parked there before. They angled the spaces in such a direction that you can't go in nose first, unless you come in from the opposite side of the street/direction of travel but then you'd have a horrible time getting back out.kumquat wrote:Nose out vs nose in is kind of a big debate. Many places have rules forbidding you from parking nose out. The reason is that there's no warning before the vehicle starts to pull out of the space. The white reverse lights on the back of cars are a safety feature.BenWA wrote:Being parked nose out is safer when you go to leave. No risk of backing into a person or another vehicle you didn't see in your mirrors. The drivers manual in some states tell you that you should park that way whenever possible. The hatchback has to be opened to load stuff, so lots of space to the rear of it makes perfect sense. It also saves you a bit of fuel, not having to back up.
I can think of four garages and three parking lots I park in regularly that have signs posted prohibiting parking rear-in, and none of them are angled or one-way. Maybe it varies by region.BenWA wrote:That's in angled parking spaces along sides of streets, not in big parking lots like that photo. I have seen just off street places where they REQUIRE you to back in, not go in nose first! There is one nearby where I live as I recall, having parked there before. They angled the spaces in such a direction that you can't go in nose first, unless you come in from the opposite side of the street/direction of travel but then you'd have a horrible time getting back out.kumquat wrote:Nose out vs nose in is kind of a big debate. Many places have rules forbidding you from parking nose out. The reason is that there's no warning before the vehicle starts to pull out of the space. The white reverse lights on the back of cars are a safety feature.BenWA wrote:Being parked nose out is safer when you go to leave. No risk of backing into a person or another vehicle you didn't see in your mirrors. The drivers manual in some states tell you that you should park that way whenever possible. The hatchback has to be opened to load stuff, so lots of space to the rear of it makes perfect sense. It also saves you a bit of fuel, not having to back up.
The white safety lights are a safety feature to light up the area behind the car at night so you can potentially see objects in the way, but also because of the reason I said before... it's riskier to go in reverse than it is to come out nose first if you can simply use your eyes to look, not rely on mirrors, so people approaching you that you may not see in mirrors will know you are about to come out of the space. You don't just go racing out of a space just because you are nose first so it's still safer than backing up. If you want to give warning, creep out a few inches and look around.
A lot of drivers don't give a damn about your backup lights anyway. They won't even toot their horn as you are slowly backing out, as they PASS YOU like they can't see you. So no, backing is never safe in a crowded parking lot. Small kids don't care about backup lights either. Or pets/animals. Or blind people for that matter.
Specifically if a parking lot is next to, adjacent to, or literally touching a building where there are windows or vents for the heating/AC systems, then there MAY BE signs posted prohibiting rear in parking. This is due to the potential exhaust fumes entering the building and people getting sick! Never saw exhaust pipes come out of the front of a car yet so theses examples are good ones to where you MUST nose in.kumquat wrote:I can think of four garages and three parking lots I park in regularly that have signs posted prohibiting parking rear-in, and none of them are angled or one-way. Maybe it varies by region.
Those are on streets, not parking lots or garages. You don't have pedestrian walkways in the pull-out areas. You do have traffic, however. These spaces are designed to minimize the impact on traffic of cars exiting their spaces, and maximize the ability of the car to get back into traffic without backing out blind into one or more lanes of roadway. Parking lots are a different story.BenWA wrote:Garages are different than outdoor parking.
This is how they do back-in only parking:
There appears to be very little data, but some organizations say it's safer to back in than back out:kumquat wrote:Here are some articles on the topic. It's illegal to park front-out in some places, and many private lots forbid it as well:
http://www.mercurynews.com/mr-roadshow/ ... -completed
"But some lots, like those at Valley Medical Center in San Jose. may post signs banning rear-first parking, so be careful."
That doesn't make sense. Wouldn't they see your backup lights and not drive directly into you? I mean, you'd be right in front of them pretty much.kumquat wrote:The main argument on either side seems to be pedestrian safety. Personally, I'm more worried about the person sitting in their car backed in because they could literally drive directly into me with zero warning, while a car without its reverse lights on would need to swtich gears first.
....and you assume a woman cannot fly a plane?808 Vibes wrote:...and you assume that the person is a female?
After having a 19ft camper van with 95% blind spot area, the Vibe is a breeze to back up. I had a loud backup on rear of the van to help release me from SOME liability if some idiot walked behind it and got hit.Mark wrote:The Vibe has some "visibility issues", to say the least. I always either back in or pull through, depending on the situation. I try to never put myself in a position to have to back out of a parking space, especially where pedestrians are present.
You're absolutely right, Joatmon, there is nothing on the sticker that would indicate gender, but the whole point of the OP's thread was to make fun of the driver's parking. The assumption is the word "she's" in the title of the OP's thread, when there is no validity in the "she." There is no "I <3 my husband" sticker, no "Army Wife...toughest job in the world" sticker, no "Harvard Mom" sticker, no "Mom's Taxi" sticker, nothing even indicating even a slightest hint at gender, not even in the car.joatmon wrote:Certainly nothing about it that might indicate driver gender.
Especially when he or she parked the vehicle perfectly.808 Vibes wrote:I can appreciate that the OP intended it as a harmless new post on an otherwise painfully slow board, but hopefully in the future, they will be a little more selective in choice of words (and note that since I don't know the OP's gender, I used the word 'they.')
Hey Vibes,808 Vibes wrote: I can appreciate that the OP intended it as a harmless new post on an otherwise painfully slow board, but hopefully in the future, they will be a little more selective in choice of words (and note that since I don't know the OP's gender, I used the word 'they.')