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Went out to my Vibe at lunch from work and found half of it covered with sticky sap.......the day after I picked it up from the bodyshop after $2000 worth of repairs. One guy at work reccommended gas line antifreeze would remove it but would also remove all the paintseal the bodyshop just applied and I would have to re wax the whole car. Does anyone know of a good way to remove treesap before it kills the already delicate paint on my Vibe.
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Get some bug and tree/sap remover. Auto Parts stores shold carry it.

Or you can try out this link here, very helpful:

http://www.bmwworld.com/repair...p.htm

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How to Remove Tree Sap

To remove the tree sap from your vehicle's surface, you can use finger nail polish remover on a cotton ball. After the sap is removed, make a paste of water and baking soda to wash the affected area, then apply wax.

Another method to remove the sap is to use mineral sprits (it will also remove tar). Use a soft, terry towel, or wash cloth dampened with mineral sprits. After removal, wash the car and apply wax to the affected area.

Tree sap can also be removed by using a water-soluble paint brush cleaner. A common household solution is bacon grease or lard. Just rub it on, and off comes the sap. To get tree sap off of your hands, simply rub mayonnaise on them and wash it off. To remove tree sap and other substances, you can use common solvents like lighter fluid, rubbing alcohol, WD-40 or even Skin-So-Soft bath oil.

The way to use those materials is to let them do their work of dissolving (in the case of alcohol) or softening (in the case of oils), enough to rub off the remaining sap. If you use the oil, wash the car afterwards to remove it.

You can also use commercial wax and grease-removing products available at auto supply stores. Be sure to wash and dry the car before applying the wax and grease remover. Then dampen a clean cloth with the solvent and rub the affected area. It may require several attempts if the sap is very thick or extremely hard. The surface may appear hazy after the solvent evaporates, but a good wax application will eliminate the haze and complete the job.

Removing tree sap from a car's finish is a bit more difficult than tar, as hardened sap can scratch your paint. I've found that by hand-rubbing the sap spots with mineral spirits or denatured alcohol, I'm able to easily remove the sap without damaging the finish. Mineral spirits and denatured alcohol acts as a solvent to break up and dissolve the sap.

If there is a large amount of sap on the car, or if the sap has been left on the finish for an extended period of time, it can be a lot of work to remove. For these cases, you can try hitting the affected areas with a light-duty buffing compound to remove the hardened surface on the sap spots. Then you can use mineral spirits or a similar solvent to remove it. The light duty buffing compound softens the sap so the solvent can do its job. The goal is to use the least pressure possible to reduce the risk of scratching the paint. After removing heavy sap, always buff the treated areas with a good polish to clean up any marks created during hand-rubbing with solvent. The treated area must also be re-waxed.

Another technique is to use orange based solvents and children's molding clay. Apply a bit of the solvent and rub with the clay. It is abrasive enough to scrub off the sap which has been broken down by the solvent.

The chemicals used to remove road stains can also remove your wax or sealants. After removing tar, sap or bugs, plan to spot wax or re-wax your vehicle. If you don't have time to wax right away, use a quick detailing spray that contains wax. A quick spray wax is great for this kind of spot waxing, too.

Old tar, tree sap, and paint over-spray can be easily removed with a miraculous new product called automotive clay. As you rub it across any type of surface (paint, glass, plastic, metal, rubber, vinyl) it instantly sticks-to and pulls-off all contamination that is stuck to the surface. Here's how to use an automotive clay bar:

To use the automotive clay, spray a water-based lubricant on a small area of your car and rub the bar back and forth with light to medium pressure. If the lubricant begins to dry, you'll need to spray more. Clay bars are fairly sticky, and they cannot be used dry.

After a few passes with the clay bar, rub your hand over the area to feel if the surface contamination was removed. Keep rubbing until all contamination bumps are gone. Finally, wipe the clay residue off with a soft terry cloth towel, and buff to a nice luster. Just like waxing, work in small areas.

Check the clay bar frequently for hard particles. When found, pick them off. Make it a habit to occasionally knead and reform the bar so that a fresh portion of the bar contacts your car's paint.

When you're finished claying your car, you should go over it with a pre-wax cleaner to finish cleaning the paint and restore essential oils. Then, protect your newly cleaned finish with one or more coats of rich Carnauba wax.

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Easily removes bug and tar stains from all surfaces. Works great on windshields and headlights.



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Thanks for your advice..I went to go to Canadian Tire to see what they had for tree sap remover but on the way I stopped at a self serve car wash just for kicks. To my amazement it washed right off with just the water spray and some soap, no brushes! I don't know whether the temperature was right for it not to stick or whether my paint sealant (teflon based) saved it, but I do know it made me smile...... I will no longer park on the street across from work, back to the assigned lot and the 5 minute walk, not so bad now that it is not -20C...



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Most bug and tar removers will take that stuff right off without harming the finish.

But always make sure that you're keeping a good wax coat on - will help keep it from sticking and let's it wash away easier.



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Raging has it exactly right. But after using any kind of bug and tar remover the car still has to be washed and re-waxed. Most of them contain solvents that will strip off the wax. Keeping a good coat of wax on the car does wonders in helping to prevent things from sticking to it. Since your finish was recently sealed, it kept the sap from sticking.

I've also heard of an old trick to coat the front end of the car with WD-40 before going on a long highway trip to keep bugs from sticking to the car.



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The thread needs to be made sticky I think... I just found the information, thats all to help out anyone.
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Great info, silver! I tried half a dozen products (including tar remover) the first time I ran into this problem, and gas line antifreeze was the only thing that worked! Glad to hear it isn't an instant paint killer, but I'll try the clay bar thing this year. (There a big city-owned birch that gums up two of our cars every year. The only good news is the sap is transparent, so the cars don't look too bad if you don't get too close...)
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Quote, originally posted by silverawd26 »
The thread needs to be made sticky I think... I just found the information, thats all to help out anyone.

Excellent suggestion---Done!



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I question the nail polish remover statement (To remove the tree sap from your vehicle's surface, you can use finger nail polish remover on a cotton ball. After the sap is removed, make a paste of water and baking soda to wash the affected area, then apply wax.) and would suggest that it probably isn't the best thing to be using on your car.

I am a chemist and we use acetone to remove pretty much everything from everything. If you are using acetone based nail polish remover, I would tread very, very lightly. One of the products I have analyzed in my job is the paint GM uses on the Envoy. Acetone stripped it off of the surface VERY nicely.

Just be careful.



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THE CLAY BAR!!!! get it, it works wonders, rail dust just disappears, sap same results!!! then use a good wax
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I agree, use the claybar.. or even a bit of Simple Green on the glass (not the body) will help as well.



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go with the clay,and DON'T use your fingernailsto scratch it off,it leaves little scratches in the paint you have to buff out
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THE CLAY BAR!!!! get it, it works wonders, rail dust just disappears, sap same results!!! then use a good wax
So you just use the claybar without any type of solvent?




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So you just use the claybar without any type of solvent?

No, never use the clay bar on the surface of the car without first spraying it with the lube. The lube that comes with the clay bars is just a spray quick detailer product. Those are available in many parts/automotive stores and even probably in WalMart.



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Another simple thing that really works great on tree sap is Denatured Alcohol applied with a cotton swab and then as with the other remedies reapply wax or paint sealer. Works on all tree sap, soft or the hard kind which was left too long. Keep the swab moist and don't try to rub it dry as it will leave scratches from the dry swab. Let it dry by evaporation and then apply the wax or whatever you use.



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I parked once under a tree at work and got sap all over the car that was the last time I parked under a tree.



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Never got tree sap on my car, but I got it in my hair just a few days ago. Took forever to get out



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Best way to remove treesap - use tar remover - it wont harm your paint.
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remove tree's
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that was 1 of them 6ft balled christmass tree's when i planted it,unfortunately i planted it in the wrong spot
dropped another while i was at it
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click on thumbnail's,u can see the sap build up on the car port,the sap would b a real mess at times, i would use wd-40 to remove the sap from the cars



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