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2004 broken antenna base

Postby cthomasparr » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:17 pm

Hi,

I am brand new to this forum. Just picked up a 2004 Vibe yesterday. The owner said the radio worked on and off. kind of mysteriously. After taking it home I noticed that the antenna was broken.

Anyway, after looking at this forum, I realize that my base is broken (there is no chrome thing to screw a new mast into. I know that I need to remove the headliner to replace the entire unit. I will be looking for used antennas as well as a front license plate bracket, but I was wondering....

If I need to get get a new one from a dealer and am paying big bucks for the base and mast, is there a better aftermarket alternative. Maybe one that works as well or better and is hinged???

Thanks,
Chris

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Re: 2004 broken antenna base (cthomasparr)

Postby Raven » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:01 am

I just replaced my base a couple of months ago. I got a used antenna and base for $20.00 on Ebay.
The base has an amplifier built into it and only OEM will work although it may be cheaper from a Toyota (Matrix) dealer if buying new.
I tried using aftermarket "shorty" antennas but found I lost the signal must more quickly in outlying areas. The antenna is very common and is used on Toyota, VW etc.

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Re: 2004 broken antenna base (cthomasparr)

Postby Herb » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:12 am

I accidentally snapped off my antenna at the base a few years back:

http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=5967

Would you agree to debris acceptance?

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Re: 2004 broken antenna base (Herb)

Postby cthomasparr » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:47 am

Raven,

Thanks for the advice about the amplification on teh OEM unit. Do you know if the VW actually uses the same part? If that's true, it would help with finding a used one. Hopefully I will get lucky on Ebay or in a junk yard.

Herb,

I found your post here earlier and that was a great picture of the broken base. Mine looks very similar but without the wire. I found another link with pictures of the headliner out. If you know of a step by step to remove the headliner with pictures, please pass that along. Otherwise I will have to put one togehter when I do it myself.


Thanks for the quick responses. I was kind of cursing the engineers that put the antenna there until I read that it can be removed.

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Re: 2004 broken antenna base (cthomasparr)

Postby Herb » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:11 am

For removing the headliner, I used the instructions posted here:

http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=4600

There wasn't a step by step photo directions, but the text instructions were sufficient for me to figure it out. I even posted some photos after I removed the headliner in that thread. I wish I had thought about taking photos as I was doing it though.

Good luck!

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Re: 2004 broken antenna base (cthomasparr)

Postby Raven » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:37 am

I was referring to the mast being common, I'm not sure about the base.
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Re: 2004 broken antenna base (cthomasparr)

Postby KNINE » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:19 am

You don't have to drop the whole headliner. When I installed my Sirius antenna, I just dropped the back of the head liner so I could reach in and disconnect my stock antenna. Then I routed my Sirius antenna down the stock antenna hole.

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Postby cthomasparr » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:29 pm

Thanks K-Nine. I will definitely start with the headliner from the rear forward.
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Re: Replaced Antenna Last Night

Postby cthomasparr » Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:04 pm

I replaced the antenna mast last night. I was able to get the new part in and finish up in under two hours. The pictures I took came out kind of crappy, so I will just list the steps that I took to replace the part. My goal was to remove the headliner as little as is possible to get the job done.

First things first. I suggest that you buy or borrow a cheap set of moulding removal tools. I picked one up from harbor freight for about $5. They are an assortment of plastic pry bars. Some have a notch like a tool to pull nails. That works great on the cheapo plastic buttons. I also had a mirror that I could use to see the antenna nut... It was not visible with the little amount of headliner that I removed. I am pretty comfortable working on touch alone, so if you are not, you might want to consider dropping the entire headliner as you will need to remove at least half.

Secondly, the headliner material is not much better than a thin sheet of styrofoam. Go slowly and never force it or it will crack.

Step one ( remove two cheapo plastic buttons to the left and right of rear hatch light. I used the plastic pry bar tool to gently get between the headliner and button and then used my weight to pull them straight down. I don't recommend using the tool to pry them out... or you may crack the headliner.

The rear quarter panels were next. Each has an upper and lower section. It looks like the original assembly order was upper was put on first and then lower. I was able to completely remove the upper section without removing the entire lower section.

remove the upper cargo bolts on the lower section... I left the lower ones alone. pry the upper part away from the car starting at the part closest to the hatch. Put a pry bar between the headliner and plastic panel and pull straight out toward the other quarter panel. They popped out smoothly. as you pop out this panel toward the front, you will notice that the rear seatbelt mount must be removed.

Pry off the front cover with a screw driver. The front cover hinge is at the top and the place where you pry is just above the belt fabric. You will see the seam in the plastic where you pry.

As the entire uppper section was loose, but stil connected to the lower section, I removed the storage door on the lower section and used that to gently pull the top of the lower section away from the car. Once the top of the lower section is loose, you can separate the upper section from the lower and place it aside

Do the same on the other side of the car.

The hand grip for the back passengers also needed to be removed. you can access the screws by driving the flat edge of a screwdriver into the crack on both sides of the handle. The covers are hinged on teh side that touches the headliner and when you drive a screwdriver at the side farthest from teh headliner it pops lose. The two bolts there were 10mm, I think.

The only things holding back the headliner now are the rear hatch light and the rear door rubber moulding. The rear hatch light is connected to the body with two metal tabs. They are on either end of the light and diagonally across from each other. You need to pry off the platic cover with a plastic pry bar (should come off easily). Find those two tabs and move them toward the center as you pull down. I got one side to cooperate first and then had some understanding how they worked. The light stays in the headliner as the whole thing comes down.

The toughest part I found was the next step. You have to free the headliner from the rubber moulding on the rear doors. I made the mistake of trying to pry back the rubber and get the headliner out. What I found was MUCH EASIER was to pry the rubber moulding away from teh body and remove the part that holds the headliner. The moulding snaps onto the body and removing/replacing was very easy. I removed this moulding by twisting it down from the outside in. It popped lose very easily and I temporaril removed the top of both sides that was touching the headliner and left the moulding hanging for a while.

I also removed the passenger seat belt mount and pryed the B-pillar moulding away from the headliner for a little more room. Not sure if that was necessary.

Next post about replacing mount.

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Re: Replaced Antenna Last Night (cthomasparr)

Postby cthomasparr » Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:36 pm

With the headliner hanging, I was able to reach under and touch the nut that held in the base in place. The nut that holds the base is pretty big. My 19MM would not fit. I found a standard oxygen sensor removal tool that fits on a wratchet fit this well. I unfortunately don't have the size for that with me...

Before I removed the nut, I followed the electrical wire and saw that it went through 4 plastic wire holder loop things. There were two as it ran toward that passenger side quarter panel that were difficult to see and two more right above the passenger rear quarter window that were visible. The connections for the new base are right above the front of the passenger quarter window and could be pulled slightly below the headliner to make replacement easier.

I freed the old wire from the mounting clips, detached the antenna wire and harness clip, loosened the old base's nut and pulled the base and wire out. The base is attached with two metallic clips that pretty easily bent as I pulled it out. I tried to push them in with a screw driver...but could not. The base also got hung up on the wire, which is bent at a 90 degree angle. When that was straightened out.. the wire pulled out easily.

The wires for the new base were threaded through the hole. the base snapped into the hole in the roof and did not turn at all. Snap the wires into the clips and attach the antenna wire and harness. bend the wire at 90 degrees just below the roof, so that the nut can be threaded on. I used the oxygen sensor tool to turn the nut tight by hand. This tool has a nub on the side where a socket fits in... so I was able to make it pretty tight. not sure if I would use a wrench, because the nut has a couple of prongs that will enventually mark the sheet metal in the roof.... but I made it as tight as I could by hand with this small tool.

Install of the headliner is the reverse of removal. I still have to replace the two cheap plastic pins. I will look for new pins just so I don't worry about those loosening up.

Good luck.

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