windshield wiper fluid freeze

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windshield wiper fluid freeze

Postby sushas » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:04 am

Just came back from my 2nd trip to quebec in the winter with my 03 Vibe and for the second time the windshield wiper fluid stopped dispensing when the temperature got around 10 degrees F. I had to resort to pulling over and splash the windshield - was quite dangerous. After garaging everything worked fine for about 10min in the cold, then the same problem started. As soon as we were back further south, and temps were back to around 15 degrees, it started working again. I used -40 degree fluid and made sure it was filled up. Has anyone had this problem? And what can I do?
Am afraid to take the Vibe on another ski trip!

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Postby CAN-AWD-VIBE » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:18 am

it's been well below 0f here this year and I have had no problem with freezing.... perhaps your -40 was mixed with some leftover summer stuff?
I only use the blue -40 stuff year round... never have that problem.
Whatever the issue I promise its not the Vibe that is at fault, don't be afraid of taking it skiing, we go all the time.... just drain the w/w fluid and refill with new -40 stuff.
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Postby ou.grizzly » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:34 am

Pretty much what we use

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Postby Tonyk27 » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:56 am

I've bin having the same problem and I use the blue -40 stuff year round too?

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Postby ou.grizzly » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:02 am

Quote, originally posted by Tonyk27 »
I've bin having the same problem and I use the blue -40 stuff year round too?

I have not had a problem yet so far and you are no more north than me in Michigan... Are you allowing your car to warm up for 10-15 minutes before driving to allow the heat from the engine radiate and warm up the lines? Properly clearing the snow from the front of the washer jet nozzles?

If you go not let the vehicle warm up properly and take up right way, if it is cold out and the wind blowing against the front will freeze any fluids faster than it sitting still; has to do with the wind chill factor.

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Re: windshield wiper fluid freeze (sushas)

Postby ehoff121 » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:22 am

A woman from Vermont with the same problem was on Car Talk this weekend.

Click and Clack told her to garage it and use wiper concentrate at 3/4 to half the ratio of water to concentrate.

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Postby ehoff121 » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:25 am

[QUOTE=ou.grizzly]Pretty much what we use


+1 Target sells the 5 quart version that is both a de-icer and bug remover.

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Re: windshield wiper fluid freeze (sushas)

Postby northvibe » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:31 am

Quote, originally posted by sushas »
Just came back from my 2nd trip to quebec in the winter with my 03 Vibe and for the second time the windshield wiper fluid stopped dispensing when the temperature got around 10 degrees F. I had to resort to pulling over and splash the windshield - was quite dangerous. After garaging everything worked fine for about 10min in the cold, then the same problem started. As soon as we were back further south, and temps were back to around 15 degrees, it started working again. I used -40 degree fluid and made sure it was filled up. Has anyone had this problem? And what can I do?
Am afraid to take the Vibe on another ski trip!

Ive never had that happen to my vibe or any car. Either the nozzles were frozen over, wrong fluid OR the motor/pump is having some problems when it gets cold.


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Postby psiu » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:55 am

I have that problem if I just get in and go when it's that cold, but even if it's cold it will start spraying after some drive time on the freeway.

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Re: windshield wiper fluid freeze (sushas)

Postby ColonelPanic » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:21 am

I had mine freeze when it was in the 20's... I have no idea what kind of garbage fluid the dealer had used last time they changed oil, but whatever it was it froze almost instantly... I tried adding half a bottle of some Prestone washer fluid anti-freeze, helped a little.

I ended up just running the washers for a bit every few minutes until it was all gone. Filled it up with some good winter fluid and topped it back off with the rest of the windshield washer anti-freeze stuff. No problems since. And I'll make sure the reservior is overflowing the next time it goes in so they won't be filling it up.

I've used that Rain-X fluid the others have posted about - tis pretty good stuff.

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Postby sushas » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:38 am

Thanks for all of your comments! I had -40 stuff, maybe mixed with a little -25 stuff, so I don't think this was the problem... also on the way up it worked and then stopped right when we hit around 10 degrees, even though we were driving for about 7hrs (so the motor was certainly warm) and I had been using the wipers constantly up to that point (I topped off the fluid inbetween) to avaoid it to freeze. On the way south the car had been garaged, (so it was warm), it stopped working suddenly and started up around 15 degrees just as suddenly, even though 15 is still way below freezing. Does this seem consistent with a bad batch of fluid?? What about the pump freezing?

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Re: (sushas)

Postby Raven » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:38 pm

When it's going to be really cold, I add some pure methanol to the washer fluid. It's cheap and really lowers the freezing point.

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Postby BlueCrush » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:09 pm

I've been using the "Splash" brand De-Icer wiper fluid this winter. No problems, even at -20°.
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