Vibe quarter mile times

abe98gt · Post by **abe98gt** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:18 am

I searched in forums and on the web, and can't seem to find a good compilation of quarter mile times/mph for Vibes/Matrix's. Can you help me fill this chart in? Mods feel free to edit this post to keep it up to date. Thanks for your help! 1ZZ 2WD 4-speed auto ........ 16.67 @ 87.6 (Novaresource, G-Tech, 0-60: 8.76)1ZZ AWD 4-speed auto ........ 18.08 @ 75.19 (Edmunds.com)1ZZ 2WD 5-speed manual .... 16.34 @ 90.2 (cohocarl, G-Tech, 11/13/02)2ZZ 2WD 6-speed manual ....15.8 @ 90.5 (Motor Trend, 12/02)2ZZ 2WD 6-speed manual....15.15 @ 98.6 (rasermon, G-tech, 11/16/02, 1/4 tank, 4K launch, 33deg, 0-60:7.2)2ZZ 2WD 6-speed manual.......16.1 @ ??? (andrewmva, G-tech w/19" wheels) 2ZZ 2WD 4-speed auto ........ ??? (Matrix only)Forced induction1ZZSC 2WD 4-speed auto ........ ??? (Coming soon!!)1ZZSC 2WD 5-speed manual........ ??? (Coming soon!!)Do not exist:1ZZ 2WD 6-speed manual1ZZ AWD 5-speed manual1ZZ AWD 6-speed manual2ZZ AWD 4-speed auto2ZZ 2WD 5-speed manual2ZZ AWD 5-speed manual2ZZ AWD 6-speed manual*Note about G-tech from Sub-Zero: the trap speeds are about 4-5mph too high because it gives the instantaneous speed at the quarter mile mark...the track uses a speed trap over the last few meters.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:51 am

You should list it this way:1ZZ 2WD 4-speed auto ........ 16.67 @ 87.6 (mine, G-Tech)1ZZ AWD 4-speed auto ........ 18.08 @ 75.19 (Edmunds.com)1ZZ 2WD 5-speed manual .... 16.34 @ 90.2 (cohocarl, G-Tech)2ZZ 2WD 4-speed auto ........ ??? (Matrix only)2ZZ 2WD 6-speed manual .... 15.8 @ 90.5 (Motor Trend, 12/02)Do not exist:1ZZ 2WD 6-speed manual1ZZ AWD 5-speed manual1ZZ AWD 6-speed manual2ZZ AWD 4-speed auto2ZZ 2WD 5-speed manual2ZZ AWD 5-speed manual2ZZ AWD 6-speed manual

abe98gt · Post by **abe98gt** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:18 am

Thanks! People can quote yours from now on, and hopefully fill up the chart.

JustinVGT · Post by **JustinVGT** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 12:09 pm

I just looked in the back of my latest MotorTrend and the Matrix XRS has a quarter mile time of 15.7 sec/92.0 mph. So, the Vibe GT should be just about the same.

cohocarl · Post by **cohocarl** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 3:06 am

Well, I couldn't just sit there with a base 5-speed, and a Gtech Pro sitting in a box while we needed some more numbers....Best I got today was a 16.34sec/90.2 mph. I probably could have gotten a little better time, but I didn't want to waste the clutch any more than I did. Later,Carl

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 3:22 am

Those G-Tech Pros are awesome. I love mine. I haven't used it in a while but maybe I should now that it's cooler.

cohocarl · Post by **cohocarl** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:11 am

Or this way soon:1ZZ 2WD 4-speed auto ........ 16.67 @ 87.6 (mine, G-Tech)1ZZSC 2WD 4-speed auto ........ ??? (Coming soon!!)1ZZ AWD 4-speed auto ........ 18.08 @ 75.19 (Edmunds.com)1ZZ 2WD 5-speed manual .... 16.34 @ 90.2 (cohocarl, G-Tech)1ZZSC 2WD 5-speed manual .... ??? (Coming soon!!)2ZZ 2WD 4-speed auto ........ ??? (Matrix only)2ZZ 2WD 6-speed manual .... 15.8 @ 90.5 (Motor Trend, 12/02)

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 5:19 am

Hi Carl, the next time I come over to your place, I'll have to put your G-Tech in my 2ZZ and see what numbers I can achieve. If thats ok with you.

cohocarl · Post by **cohocarl** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 7:32 am

quote:Hi Carl, the next time I come over to your place, I'll have to put your G-Tech in my 2ZZ and see what numbers I can achieve. If thats ok with you. Sounds good!!

abe98gt · Post by **abe98gt** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 11:00 am

Thanks for replying guys. These Vibe's are running some pretty good trap speeds. My Grand Prix GT is supposed to run high 15's, and trap around 90. GP's are known for their strong bottom end and weak high end. These Vibe's are pretty damn impressive!

Sub-Vibe-R · Post by **Sub-Vibe-R** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 10:56 pm

Does anyone have 1/4 mile times for other car in the Vibe cathegory as P5, Focus or Civic?I'd like to compare them

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 11:45 pm

go to http://www.yahoo.com then click on autos. You'll be able to find the vehicles your looking for from the drop down menu and normally there is a performance specs listed there.

Flip-Side · Post by **Flip-Side** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:43 pm

I would really like to see times for Vibes with a CAI and a high flow exhaust...so I know what to expect when I do mine.

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Fri Nov 15, 2002 6:38 am

quote:I don't intend to be rude to GT owners, but what's the big deal with a GT then.... it's only .54 seconds faster than the base model 5 spd, over a quarter mile..... it's not a big plus to have a GT, a second to 2 second difference would be something!Salsa, I hope to meet up with cohocarl (may be this weekend) and use his G-Tech. As soon as I get some numbers I'll post them. .54 seconds faster has me thinking now.

andrewmva · Post by **andrewmva** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 2:02 am

I went 16.1 on the G-tech2WD Matrix XRS stock on the 19" wheels

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 2:15 am

Auto or 6-speed?

lordyogi · Post by **lordyogi** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 3:57 am

quote:what's the big deal with a GT then.... it's only .54 seconds faster than the base model 5 spd, over a quarter mile..... it's not a big plus to have a GT, a second to 2 second difference would be something!im not sure how much you realize exactly how much money it is to actually close that half second gap. you may think that a CAI will shave that much, it wont. To actually pull 1/2 second off of your quarter time it costs a lot, if you look at the supercharger posts they are talkin about mid 14's, maybe. Sure its factory warrantied, but its also $2000 or more, and for the supercharger to give you full potential, you better put a little more money to increase the airflow in and out, so your lookin at another couple hundie for intake and exhaust. yogi

cohocarl · Post by **cohocarl** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 4:06 am

"Horsepower costs money....How fast do you want to go?"quote:To actually pull 1/2 second off of your quarter time it costs a lot,Ya, a half second doesn't sound like that much difference, but in drag racing, it's ALOT! I wish I could make my Vette a 1/2 second quicker....

andrewmva · Post by **andrewmva** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 4:49 am

6spd---- about the big difference between models... to take 2 sec off your time you will need about 75-100 more hp

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 6:01 am

Thanks to cohocarl for the use of his GTech.2003 Vibe GT - 1/4 tank of gas2ZZ 2WD 6-speed manual .... 15.15 @ 98.6 (rasermon, 11/16/02)I will post pic's, have to send them to NSimkins.Also thanks to NovaResource for advice.

andrewmva · Post by **andrewmva** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 6:03 am

Impressive time..... what mods do you have done??

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 6:18 am

quote:Impressive time..... what mods do you have done??No mods, launch @ 4000, outside temp 33.

Sub-Zero · Post by **Sub-Zero** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 6:53 am

don't forget guys, if you're using the GTech Pro, the trap speeds are about 4-5mph too high because it gives the instantaneous speed at the quarter mile mark...the track uses a speed trap over the last few meters.

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 9:36 am

Sub-Zero has talked about launching at 5,000 RPM or just a little higher. On a 2ZZ taking the RPMs up to 8,200 then shifting will give you outstanding times. A 1ZZ should shift around 6,500 to 6,600. I'm not sure where the 1ZZ rev limiter is. It I could shift at around 6,800 to 6,900 with a 1ZZ that would be perfect.I'm going off of the Celica GT making max HP at 6,400. You should all ways shift 400 to 500 RPM over your max HP so you land higher up in the power band. This kind of shifting should only be done when racing.

abe98gt · Post by **abe98gt** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 10:51 am

Thanks to all of you for running your cars hard in the name of data collection. Can't wait to see some of those Supercharged times!

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Sat Nov 16, 2002 11:59 am

Here are the pic's after a GTech run. LOL, I had to take about 20 pic's just to capture the numbers. Time and MPH flash about every 1-1/2 sec.

Sub-Zero · Post by **Sub-Zero** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 1:44 am

that's a great time that would definitely be over 90mph at the track and a low-mid 15 second time.and i know what you mean about trying to take a picture of the flashing numbers also the rev limiter on the 1ZZ is about 7000-7100rpm. if you have a stock engine, shifting a little before that (like indicated redline) would be fine. if you have breathing mods, i'd probably run it all the way up there.here's another tip, lower the tire pressure in front when at the track!

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Sun Nov 17, 2002 2:01 am

quote:that's a great time that would definitely be over 90mph at the track and a low-mid 15 second time.Thanks Sub-Zero, I did 3 runs with the GTech and the other two was in the high 15's. I know the results would be different at the track. I had an outstanding launch to achieve that time 15.15.

andrewmva · Post by **andrewmva** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 1:27 am

launch is key..... I went 16.1 then like 16.5 all over the place. the cold weather helped you a good bit man....cold -air = more power

andrewmva · Post by **andrewmva** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 2:23 am

cold air = oxygenoxygen + fuel = power the extra power that you make is much more that the resistance of the dense air. It is not like we are talking about going 140+mph.

cohocarl · Post by **cohocarl** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:33 am

rasermon, That 30mph tailwind didn't hurt either did it?

abe98gt · Post by **abe98gt** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:39 am

Cold air makes everybody run lower times. It's a proven fact. Air resistance doesn't even become greater than tire resistance (from friction) until above 35-45 mph or so. Let's try to keep this thread on-topic.

Flip-Side · Post by **Flip-Side** » Mon Nov 18, 2002 5:34 pm

quote:Cold air makes everybody run lower times. Hence the reason people buy CAI's. So it would be cool to see some times for slightly modded Vibes, with new exhaust or intake.

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 6:17 am

quote:Oh and, how much do you weigh? How many people in the car, full/half/empty tank, carrying any thing in the car???Salsa, are you inquiring this info. from me?

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 4:38 pm

I would like to know what octane fuel you are running. The label inside the fuel door says to run premium fuel. I asked about this when buying the car and they told me after making some calls that running regular would cause no harm at all to the car, but that performance would suffer, especially after the cam changeover. I have noticed that this is true in my own experience. So I have to ask, are you running 93-94 octane fuel or regular 87 octane for these great 1/4 mile runs in the GT? There are also supposed to be differences in summer and winter gas, too, though I forget which way they affect performance.

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 6:32 am

Information requested by Salsa & Stang2Vibe.My weight: 209 lbs. Octane: 94Fuel tank: People in the car: Just meTemp outside: 33Wind: NE 5-10mphCome to think about it, I was running directly into the wind. It was a cold day with a NE wind that comes off Lake Huron. If you need more Info. on the GTech follow this link. http://www.gtechpro.com/products.html Good Day, Richard

Flip-Side · Post by **Flip-Side** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 5:10 am

Ha...you are sooo wrong. It was 11mph winds. Bet you feel pretty silly right about now....

andrewmva · Post by **andrewmva** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 6:15 am

BIG question about the 15.1 time.... It seems way off base from all the other times that I have seen for the Matrix/Vibe.... I know the G-tech can be off....or maybe your one of the lucky few that got a "wednesday" car... Did you back up that run at all with a 15.2 or another 15.1 ?? not trying to start anything... just wondering why the numbers are off so far... usually a stock car is within .2 sec of most test claims. I have a feeling that the G-tech liked you that day... OR maybe everything just went right.

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 11:12 am

quote:BIG question about the 15.1 time.... It seems way off base from all the other times that I have seen for the Matrix/Vibe.... I know the G-tech can be off....or maybe your one of the lucky few that got a "wednesday" car... I understand that your concerned with 15.1 time. Had two other runs with the GTech, 15.8 and 16.34. Like I said, my launch for the 15.1 was outstanding and was not able to duplicate that for the other two. The 16.34 was bad shifting. The GTech I was using is not mine, it belongs to Genvibe member (cohocarl). Next month (x-mas bonus) I plan on getting the new G-Tech Pro Competition, plus modifications (CAI and exhaust). Maybe next month I can prove that 15.1 is not correct or it may still stand.

andrewmva · Post by **andrewmva** » Mon Nov 25, 2002 1:09 am

OK that makes sense to me.....

Faultline · Post by **Faultline** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 9:24 am

Ok this is a few months later sicnce the last post, but what I was wondering, ...Has anyone taken the g-tech to the track for a few runs to compare the simultaneous track times?..Ok then..some of you know that I put a turbo on my 5spd ..The dyno said 210hp...but here in the desert at 3000ft, we multiply by 1.072 for the adjustment factor to make 225hp.. this is to the wheels... and part of me doesnt really care, I am happy to bragg over 200hp to the wheels....Now no one gets their best trak times at 3000ft..and because of an accident on the trak by a t-bird, there was only one run..It was a mere 15.5...and was not a great run, but not a catastrophe either.. the celica gt after me ran at 17.0..I think at this elevation, I can get into the 14's, but now I am still behind a vibe gt...I maybe racing challenged...but everyon should be leary of people coming on with extrordinary time... congrats to rasermon..good job..and I just want to root for our car...

cohocarl · Post by **cohocarl** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 8:27 pm

With a force inducted motor, I didn't think elevation mattered (as long as you are getting full boost)?????How was your traction? The strip that is closest to us (about 2 hrs away) is still closed for the winter.

cohocarl · Post by **cohocarl** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:24 pm

quote:Mt Morris?Stanton

Faultline · Post by **Faultline** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:27 pm

quote:With a force inducted motor, I didn't think elevation mattered (as long as you are getting full boost)?????How was your traction? The strip that is closest to us (about 2 hrs away) is still closed for the winter. No, Its all about the oxygen... In a turbo book I read befor my project, they even mentioned some airplanes that used turbos for their engines that would kik in only at higher altitudes, just too match the oxygenen intake that they got at lower altitudes natrally asperated..And everyone I know who has a turbo says that they can really tell the difference when they take their car to the coast.....