VW TDi emissions cheat

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VW TDi emissions cheat

Postby joatmon » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:40 pm

Lots of recent new coverage about Volkswagen, none of it good. They've put software in their diesels that senses when it's emissions are being tested, and alters engine to meet requirements, but doesn't meet requirements any time the emissions aren't being tested.

I'm not surprised that someone thought of doing it, I do find it surprising that VW actually did it and thought they could get away with it.

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Re: VW TDi emissions cheat

Postby vibrologist » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:00 pm

VW was not the first one to be caught with this: http://www2.epa.gov/enforcement/caterpi ... settlement

That does not make them any less culpable.
If VW gets killed over this then the German economy goes to the dumps and the rest of Europe goes with it. Therefore it is likely that VW will continue as a going concern and some hideous horse deals will happen around this fiasco. The greatest beneficiaries will be the lawyers. Tax payers in Europe, share holders all over the globe, customers mostly in the US, and dealers mostly int he US will feel the hurt. (Would you like to trade in your Jetta Diesel? Good luck!-Would you like your Jetta Diesel detoxified and loose MPG and performance over it? No thanks! That's why it was bought in the first place.)

Some heads will roll. They will try to find a herd of scapegoats (one won't do) and Winterkorn will try to stay in charge. But it won't work. He and a bunch of big wigs will need to go.

Some think that Merkel will loose grip of power over this: she can't let VW go to the dumpster because she opened the doors wide for all these refugees. Now the US has a major bargaining chip to pressure Europe in to accepting Genetically Modified Organics, i.e. food stuff.
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Re: VW TDi emissions cheat

Postby kostby » Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:20 pm

Link to the full hundred page WVU study:
http://www.theicct.org/sites/default/fi ... ay2014.pdf

Link to The Guardian (UK) coverage of the issue:
http://www.theguardian.com/business/liv ... ve-updates

Link to The Telegraph (UK) coverage suggesting there are other European manufacturers doing similar things:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/e ... gamed.html
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Re: VW TDi emissions cheat

Postby vibrologist » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:07 am

If other manufacturers get caught in the next few weeks than this will relieve some pressure on VW. The competitors would face similar costs and egg in the face image problems.

None of them will pay the highest possible fine: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/0 ... 8-billion/

Winterkorn is out, Mueller is in charge now.http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/0 ... olkswagen/
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