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In my experience, 'crash parts' like door skins and fenders are often hard to get for new models. The body shop may have to beat the existing panels back into submission.
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Quote, originally posted by kostby »In my experience, 'crash parts' like door skins and fenders are often hard to get for new models. The body shop may have to beat the existing panels back into submission. Possibly, yeah.But the way my service manager was talking when I brought it in, he was pretty confident the fender, door skin, and pillar all need to be replaced. He didn't lead me to believe availability of parts was going to be a concern. But as was said before, all I NEED to drive the car safely is a mirror. The dealer already has that for me, so I just need it put on. The body work, while I need it to be done to make me once again feel excited about my car, is not making or breaking my ability to drive the car. So if they can't get the parts for a month...I'll wait a month to drop it off. Unlike the Vibe's deer hit, where opening the door was next to impossible, and I kinda HAD to get it done then and there, this one is just an eyesore and a nightmare of sorts, it's not impacting my ability to drive the car.
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Man, they got the mirror in that quick? I've had to wait a lot longer for stuff for the Vibe and it sure as hell isn't brand spankin' new!!!I can see now why you are waiting to get the car fixed. Makes sense to me. Drive it until they have the parts in hand then let them have at it, that way you're not finding yourself without transportation for the time to get parts plus repair time.Hey, are you going to do that mirror mod we talked about? Perfect time to get those suckers painted!
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Ya, paint the mirrors.
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I honestly don't mind the unpainted mirrors. They're breakaway, so my guess is they're unpainted intentionally, so if they DO get hit, it doesn't chip...
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Three weeks?!! That's either a good argument against ever buying a first-year model of any car, or an sign of a poor dealership. That makes no sense whatsoever.I wonder if the repair estimate (both time and $$$) would have been significantly less with the sedan.This all proves that we should never get too worked up about anything material. I'm really sorry this happened to you, Mike. I know how much you were looking forward to this.
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Sorry to hear about your new car.Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »Yeah, it took me a while, but I think this one is Erica. The whole "E" thing is coincidental. I just went through a bunch of names in my head until one felt right...Go with the spelling "Erika" it's the German version, a little unique, and my daughter's name.BTW, your old Block Heater is in and ready for the cold.Namron
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Quote, originally posted by ZubenElGenubi »I wonder if the repair estimate (both time and $$$) would have been significantly less with the sedan.Probably..it looks like he might've only hit the doors instead of the rear panel...I'm guessing the estimate makes sense..it doesn't look like something you can just 'pull out' without really destroying the integrity of the metal.. they probably have to cut into the car, re-weld, and sand, paint, etc..
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Quote, originally posted by ZubenElGenubi »Three weeks?!! That's either a good argument against ever buying a first-year model of any car, or an sign of a poor dealership. That makes no sense whatsoever.I say this again to the masses.The dealership is not doing this repair. It is beyond their ability given the equipment they have available. This repair will be coordinated by the dealer, but the actual work is being performed by a collision specialist shop.I don't understand WHY it will take 3 weeks, but that's the estimate. Supposedly the shop is extremely busy, and the dealer pulled strings to get them to agree to fix my car...so they're doing it, but they have other customers who are in there at the same time. I'm guessing that's got something to do with it. When the Vibe got hit, it was in the shop for over a week. And that had SIGNIFICANTLY less damage and work involved. So my guess is, 3 weeks is a fair estimate...*sigh*Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa »I'm guessing the estimate makes sense..it doesn't look like something you can just 'pull out' without really destroying the integrity of the metal.. they probably have to cut into the car, re-weld, and sand, paint, etc..Correct. They have to cut out some big chunks of the side and replace them. Which means re-welding, sanding, painting, etc.
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Hey Mike, first of all... congrats on the new car. Secondly, don't sweat it. The only good thing about body work on a new car, its much easier to match the paint. It hasn't had time to fade yet. They did a horrible job on matching the paint of my Matrix and it was only one year old. Also, you may want to check w/ your insurace company. Many policies provide loaner car coverage during collision repairs.The body shop is probably really busy because of all the deer crashes this time of year. Oct. and Nov. is when the deer are the most active. Good luck with the repairs and I hope to see it in person once its all fixed.
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Insurance company looked at the car on Monday. Official estimate: $3274.24. Just about on par with the service guy's estimate. Parts have been ordered, car goes in for repairs on Tuesday. They're optomistic I can likely have it back by the end of the following week.Stay tuned...
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Car went to the dealer today to start the road to recovery. See her in anywhere from 1½ - 3 weeks. **sigh**
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That's good news... What are you driving in the meantime?Here's to a speedy recovery!
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Quote, originally posted by ColonelPanic »What are you driving in the meantime?Dad's G6. And it just isn't the same.He has the rental...ironically enough, it's an 03 Vibe in Satellite. *yeesh*
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Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »He has the rental...ironically enough, it's an 03 Vibe in Satellite. *yeesh*Is that really ironic or just kharmic? Sorry. Seriously, glad you're getting the G6 fixed. Hopefully they overshot their timeframe and it won't take nearly that long.
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Good Luck Mike! I know the whole car decision was rough on you, and the suicidal Jersey deer....but hopefully you'll be motoring and modding...*I mean NOT modding* again real soon. Keep us informed on the way the repairs go.Post #970
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I actually have purchased and am ready to install my first mod when I finally get the car back:An electronic deer alarm/repellent. And yes, I am very much serious!
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I believe you...and I don't blame you in the least. Hopefully it works!
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I'm afraid that high tech electronic kit will only repel the GEEKY deer, Mike!
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Car has been at the body shop since last tuesday (the 8th).Found out that a part was delayed...they just got it. Not looking likely I'll have my car back before thanksgiving...even by december 1 is questionable.Angry doesn't even begin to describe how I feel right now...not at the shop, not at GM...just anger in general at the fact this happened...again.
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Hang in there man. It will get better! You'll have it back before you know it.
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Tuesday, 11/29/05.Officially 3 weeks today without the G6.I've now passed beyond anger and have moved straight on to desparation.I just want my freakin car back!
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That is completely and utterly ridiculous, 3 weeks to fix some damage from a deer running into the side of your car. I'd hate to see how many months it would take them to fix some real damage.
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Quote, originally posted by Pick »That is completely and utterly ridiculous, 3 weeks to fix some damage from a deer running into the side of your car. I'd hate to see how many months it would take them to fix some real damage.I think that's the problem, when they took off the sheet metal, more damage was discovered. They also had "part complications."
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3 weeks isnt so bad. i was without my vibe for 7 weeks while the shop repaired it after i rear ended someone. it was mostly the fault of an incompitent dealership.
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And now we all know WHY New Jersey is 'Attitude Capital of the World' The body shop must literally must be looking for a blue G6 GT coupe to steal the matching parts from!
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I can feel your pain, it has been snowing here and they salted the roads, about two weeks ago. It finally rained yesterday and washed the salt off the road and today it was about 50 degrees, so I got in the GTO and went for a drive. After driving the Vibe for 2 weeks it felt like a frieking Nascar! Oh well its back in the garage now and it looks like snow this weekend , may be time to put it to bed till spring.
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Got some STRAIGHT answers today. The problem is not the body shop. The problem is not the dealer. The problem is GM. One of the panels they need has been out of stock at the parts warehouse. The parts manager @ my dealer has been calling the regional parts manager daily, to find out why there's such a problem getting said panel. The regional is on the phone with Detroit, who has no idea what's going on. The regional AND the dealer both told Detroit to stop being a bunch of stuck up *&(#%*'s and instead of dicking this customer over, steal a damn panel from the assembly line. They refused. Go figure.SOOOO...until this panel comes in, my car will continue to sit in pieces in the body shop. And you know things are bad...when they won't even bother to try to give you an estimated date of completion anymore.
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Did you get 3500 from the insurance company, if so you should just trade for a new one. In the past I have done it with cars, trade the car and the insurance check for a new car, in this case one of the same model.
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Quote, originally posted by Toolman »Did you get 3500 from the insurance company, if so you should just trade for a new one. In the past I have done it with cars, trade the car and the insurance check for a new car, in this case one of the same model.Not an option. Long story.
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[QUOTE=ragingfish]Got some STRAIGHT answers today. The problem is not the body shop The regional is on the phone with Detroit, who has no idea what's going on. The regional AND the dealer both told Detroit to stop being a bunch of stuck up *&(#%*'s and instead of dicking this customer over, steal a damn panel from the assembly line. They refused. Go figure.QUOTE]That is the problem. They should be calling Grand Blanc! That is where the HDQ for Service Parts is located! I feel sorry for you. I am not sure at which plant the metal stamping is done, but they are supposed to schedule both service parts and assembly parts.
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According to the dealer, the panel is expected in deeetroit "any day now." As soon as it hits that warehouse it'll be overnight here. Once the shop gets it, supposedly I can get the car back within 2-3 days.Once I FINALLY get the car back, I'm going to talk to my dealer and see if they can get OnStar, XM, and GM to extend my free subscriptions and B2B warranty one month to compensate for the absurd amount of time my car sat waiting on a part. GM has already agreed to pick up a part of the cost of the rental, so hopefully, that sets a precendent and they'll do me a solid here...All I know is, I just want my car back. I keep telling my friends how happy I am about my new car, and how much I love it, and they're like "sounds nice, do we ever get to see it or take a ride?" Always kills my mood.
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Logic would dictate that it can take a while to get parts for newly released cars, and yours is pretty new. But, it's not "new" to the point where it just came out last week, geez, wasn't I checking these out back in the summer on the lots? Parts shouldn't be in that short of supply. Now maybe they wouldn't have as many G6 coupe parts laying around in the warehouse as they would the sedan which has been around longer, but they shoud still have G6 coupe parts nonetheless!!! It shouldn't be next to impossible for them to find what they need.In these days of "just in time production systems" or whatever, I would guess that the supplier probably isn't making enough of the parts to supply the plant, and the plant doesn't have enough laying around in reserve as it is, so you might as well forget about anybody else getting their hands on 'em. Factories are not the only places that need parts, but apparently somebody doesn't understand that. I say someone in the chain is sitting around with their thumb up their (removed) and not doing their job. Of course, as always, this is pure speculation on my part, I know nothing about any of the processes involved within this great industry.Keep hanging in there man. And keep putting up a fight, maybe you'll get the freebies you deserve. You mentioned the warranty extension by a month, you might try to fight for an increase in mileage as well, for all of your trobules that they have caused you. 100,000 should suffice. And free XM and OnStar for the duration of your loan, something like that.
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It must be written someplace in The BodyShop Bible that parts cannot be ordered until the car is in the shop and dismantled. Your car was perfectly driveable, and it was no surprise it would need the panel, right? So why not order the parts and give a call to bring it in once they get them?I had the same thing a few years ago. I even gave the shop a several hundred $$$ deposit, said they would order the parts - the deposit showed I would be back. But in the end no difference, car sits for 3 weeks waiting for parts.
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Update.Body shop does NOT anticipate me having the car back before christmas.Ok. This has now blown past absurdity. I'm getting angrier and angrier every damn day.
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Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »Body shop does NOT anticipate me having the car back before christmas.I'd ask them to put it back together until the panel came in if they can, and drive it till then. Lovely GM new model red-tape. The G6 is selling like hotcakes, so they probably don't want to give up a part that's "hot".I feel for ya. I thought that sort of thing only happens to me. That's gotta suck .
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Quote, originally posted by cohocarl »I'd ask them to put it back together until the panel came in if they can, and drive it till then. Lovely GM new model red-tape. The G6 is selling like hotcakes, so they probably don't want to give up a part that's "hot".I feel for ya. I thought that sort of thing only happens to me. That's gotta suck .They got the panel in last week. They just seem to think there's THAT much work left. That, and they started 2 other cars while waiting for the part on mine.
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Sheesh...you'd think since you've been waiting for more than a month already, they'd put those other 2 on the back burner and focus on getting yours done as soon as possible. The length of time it's been is just ridiculous...I hope the dealership can push the body shop to get it done quicker for you since your family is such good customers of theirs.
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I have a sad feeling that this could become the longest-running thread in GenVibe history!
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or at least the longest running rant.
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Update on the New Jersey Bear Hunt story from Gene Lyons' syndicated column--> Quote »Motorists there are killing deer in such numbers that local road crews can't keep up with the carnage. I'm talking two or three dead deer every five-minute trip to the supermarket; it's a sad, grisly spectacle. Memorably, if not tastefully, Kristof asks readers to ponder the human costs of these collisions: "(I)n a typical year," he writes "an American is less likely to be killed by Osama bin Laden than by Bambi."Link to full New Jersey Bear (& deer) Hunt story from Gene Lyons' syndicated column--> http://www.dddnews.com/story/1131473.html(The same link is posted in 'Six day hunt begins for New Jersey')
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HISTORY REVISITED!Raging's '6 Takes Another Hit!!!!Full story here: http://g6performance.com/forum...light=
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Not again! My stepdad was hit in his FX45 yesterday (Jan 1, 08) by a cabbie that ran a redlight!About 18 months ago, I read that insurance was the most expensive in NJ and that many major insurers were pulling their business in NJ because it has the highest accident rate in the nation.Mike, your record certainly indicates that is indeed the case for NJ.
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WTH? Glad to hear you are OK. I think you do have a big 'ol target on your car. You took a nasty hit. Hope you get it back on the road soon.
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Post by northvibe »

DANG RF!! glad you came out okay though. Good thing you didnt say or do anything to the guy that hit you, just let them be stupid. I got hit by a girl and she even admitted to it being her fault....that made her insurance company shut up hahah. Hope you get that thing fixed up soon.
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Definitely a nasty crash! Glad YOU are OK, at least. Looks like the car should be repairable, too.
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DAmn!!!!!RF, glad you're ok. yeah these imbeciles don't understand right of way, yield to oncoming traffic...etc.got hit by a lady, but reverse circumstances, she was going the opposite direction, decided to turn into the gas station on my side of the street. didn't yield to oncoming traffic (me)...the rest is history.hope your 6 is on the road soon.
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OUCH Mike.... Glade your ok though
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I'll agree with some of the comments in the other forum there.Time to move man.
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Post by MRCN RCE »

daaaaaaamn RF, that sucks. like everyone else said, at least you're ok. i know how you feel about this being the first car that you got to choose, i bought my vibe off the lot, but it had everything i would've picked for it if i had ordered one. i've had a few close calls because of idiot drivers, and all i can think of is what i would do if it got hurt. keep your head up, hopefully the 6 will be as good as new when you get it back. btw, did you get the gap coverage when you bought the 6??
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