My son and Friend....... hmm, no concerns there!!
Two kids, out goofing with Dad's car, do I really need to go farther with this??
It's operated by cables, they could have closed it on something, stripped out the cable, for some unknown reason forced it open or any number of unbelievable and stupid things could have been done.
First find out what they DID. Then start figuring out what they may have screwed up.
Now, what year do you have?
I've got the GM factory repair book for the 07 which has all the instructions for adjusting and renewing the cables and seals.
There is a Sunroof Actuator which is a cam for full closed position.
My guess is they tried to close it with something in the opening and either stripped or caused the cables to jump and now the roof panel and the closer mechanism are "out of time".
Any repairs to this unit are NOT going to be a fun time or if you pay for it to be done, will NOT be cheap for the head liner needs to be dropped to gain access to much of the mechanism.
The damage is done, try holding the button down until the roof opens fully and leave it depressed, maybe if it jumped the cable it will jump back, wishful thinking but you have everything to gain and little to loose! Try holding the glass panel stationary as you push the open button as well.
Does the air flap depress? IF not maybe they left something in there to prevent it from doing so?
Sorry it happened, if you need some scans, let me know.
My kids are grown and gone and turned up to be productive well adjusted citizens!! There were days we wondered how they would turn out!
I think it's normal for the shade to only open as far as the glass is open
I'd look to see if they might have left something in the mechanism, or the tracks
It could be possible they stripped something. When it gets to point whree it stops, does it sound like the motor is still trying or does it just stop?
What year Vibe is it?
If it is moving with the roof, open the roof all the way, then push the cover all the way back as far as it will go freely, then try to work it back pass the glass panel. They may have closed the sun panel with the roof open, you shouldn't do that.
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I think you need to get a long thin piece of metal or similar and start peering into the crevice with a flash light an see what the stop on the shade actually is and how to get it to "pop" back over the glass to restore normal function.
I've never had one out, Don't have teenagers, haven't had any problems.
Let us know what you find, it could help others in the future.
You can take the glass out while everything is in the car but it appears you need the glass fully closed to do this!!
Once the headliner is dropped down, you'll be able to remove the shade and hopefully (if it isn't too bent up) get it back on the track and reinstall.
To get the shade off, remove the stops at the rear of the track for the sunshade which are held on by one philips screw in each. You'll need a very low clearance screwdriver to go between the track and the roof (I used those L-shaped screwdrivers to break it loose and took the screws the rest of the way out using a philips bit.) Once those are out, if you can get the shade to slide all the way back you can remove it.
I believe that the purpose of the rubber piece which I found in the drain, is to prevent the sunscreen from going to far forward. When the sunroof is totally closed, the metal catch attached to the glass is up higher, so without the rubber stop in place, the sunshade can get on the wrong side. If the shade is too far forward when the sunroof gets opened, you run into my problem.
So it turns out it can be resolved without taking down the entire headliner. I removed the trim around the sunroof, the dome light and the back seat handles and was able to pull down the headliner enough to get my hand in. So here is the tricky part. You need two people to work at the same time (one on each side of the car) at pushing up slightly on the metal bar attached to the window, pulling down in the back of the sunshade, and pushing back on the sunshade. It didn't require much pressure when done right.
Now that I know what to do, the entire job could be done in less then an hour. I probably have 4 hours into it with the research and testing, hopefully I can save someone the 3 hours or who knows how much Dealer $$$.
Thank you all for the great advise. And Dave, my son really is a good kid.
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| ........If the shade is too far forward when the sunroof gets opened, you run into my problem.........|
The sunshade is designed (or at least mine operates in this manner) that if the sunshade is fully or partially closed and you open the slide function of the roof, it is pushed back as the roof opens. It does not however, ever come forward with the glass panel.
So if yours isn't getting pushed back, you've still got a problem you need to figure out and fix.
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