Beefier suspension on a budget?

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Beefier suspension on a budget?

Postby bonnevibe » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:16 pm

Suspension novice here!
I have modified my '07 Vibe to have a rear swing gate containing roughly 300lb in jerry cans, tools, and the steel construction. The rear end of the Vibe seems to be sagging a bit (maybe a lot). I am looking to lift the rear end while staying mechanically sound and on as small a budget as possible. I've looked into airbags or adjustable coil-overs but I'm not sure which way to go. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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Re: Beefier suspension on a budget?

Postby ImUrOBGYN » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:53 am

Have you looked into airbags? Not the ones that make the Vibe hop on 3 wheels while you cruise the strip, but the ones made for just this type of situation? I know Firestone makes some and I'm sure there are others. Less expensive than I would expect, too.

If you really wanna go cheap, you purchase spring spacers. These are large, stiff rubber spacers made to go between a couple of the coils on a spring. This raises height and spring stiffness a bit.

That's all I got. :)

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Re: Beefier suspension on a budget?

Postby bonnevibe » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:57 pm

ImUrOBGYN wrote:Have you looked into airbags? Not the ones that make the Vibe hop on 3 wheels while you cruise the strip, but the ones made for just this type of situation? I know Firestone makes some and I'm sure there are others. Less expensive than I would expect, too.


ImUrOBGYN, Thank you. Are these bags universal, or am I seeking something specific? Very new to this. Will it weaken my suspension at all?
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Re: Beefier suspension on a budget?

Postby ImUrOBGYN » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:34 pm

I believe the bags will be model specific. Some people like bags better. Once installed, and they shouldn't be difficult, you can adjust them for load. Cheaper bags will have manual fit for an air line, more expensive will have an onboard air compressor and regulators, etc.

I wish I could be more specific, but I honestly I have no direct experience and do not want to overstep or misinform.
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Re: Beefier suspension on a budget?

Postby kaz03GT » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:20 pm

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Re: Beefier suspension on a budget?

Postby bonnevibe » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:32 pm

Thank you for your replies, kaz03GT & ImUrOBGYN. I ended up buying some monroe struts with springs, and then fabricating a 1.5" aluminum spacer in the shape of the strut tower. Had to swap out the bolts on the struts but it sits a ton nicer, and because the spacer is above the shock I'm hoping it wont tense the spring up like some spacers might. Airbags would have been ideal, but they were tough to find and then they were pricey.
Wondering if anyone ever welds airbags to the axel as a suspension assist? Just a thought.
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Re: Beefier suspension on a budget?

Postby ImUrOBGYN » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:32 pm

(removed), I totally forgot about spacers between the actual strut and the tower. Duh. So disappointed with myself. lol
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