2009--VSC, eng light, trac ctrl light all on?

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2009--VSC, eng light, trac ctrl light all on?

Postby canadave » Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:36 pm

Last year, around the time winter was changing to spring, the VSC light started flashing on my 2009 Vibe, and the traction control light and check engine light came on at the same time. When they came on, the engine immediately started running rougher, then smoothed out a bit, but still was rougher than normal. I drove like that, got to work, turned off the car, and then when I turned the car on to go home later, everything was fine--no lights, everything running fine.

However, it did that intermittently for a few days with the lights coming on and rough running. But it went away after a few days of that.

This year, the problem has come back--same time of year--and it's much more frequent and worse (at one point, the car was practically shuddering from the rough engine). So I decided to buy an OBD reader and check the codes. The OBD shows code "P0351". In looking at that code on RepairPal (https://repairpal.com/obd-ii-code-p0351), it says this:

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Common Problems That Trigger the P0351 Code

    Defective Ignition Coil(s)
    Defective Spark Plug(s)
    Intake Manifold Vacuum leaks
    Carbon buildup in the Throttle Body air passages
    Defective Idle Air Control Valve or Electronic Body


Now, from what I've read, the first two are the most likely culprits. But my question is--if either the ignition coils or spark plugs were defective, wouldn't they cause the rough engine symptom constantly, rather than intermittently? During the intermittent times those three dashboard warning lights are off, everything seems fine, so I'm wondering if I should bother replacing the ignition coils and spark plugs, or focus on trying to run through the other three...?
2009 base Vibe, silver"

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Re: 2009--VSC, eng light, trac ctrl light all on?

Postby Caretaker » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:14 pm

Would a defective ignition coil cause constant stuttering? No. There can be arcing issues which result in intermittent issues. Some people have taken their ignition coils out and put dielectric grease along the shaft to stem the issue. It only works for awhile. As you deduced, if you have not yet put in fresh Denso iridium spark plugs and four new Denso ignition coils, do so; it is just a matter of time before the OEM ones fail. I replaced mine at just over 60,000; just because.
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