Oil Filters for 2009-2010 2.4L Vibe

[ParknVibe]

I hate to belabor this subject about oil filters, but I hope some of you Vibe experts can clear up my confusion about the available filter makers, part numbers, GM part numbers, ACDelco as explained:This concerns only the 2009-2010 2.4L engine....In the Owner's Manual it gives GM part no. 88969580The Filter part no. noted on the receipt of the first dealer oil change was 88969580. (I never located the oil filter at first so I did not know what the original looked like. I kept looking at the firewall back side of the engine for it... Yes, I know where it is now!)The filter the Dealer service last used is ACDelco PF1233 and is part no. 25161880.I just installed a Purolator PureOne PL14477 as per Purolator recommendation. (a bit taller then the PF1233. )I find in Rockauto more part numbers that could be equal to PF1233and they are 91173772 and 94848478and then there is ACDelco PF2228 .... Why was this in Rockauto listing?My question is what ACDelco filter no. is GM # 88969580 ?What is the Toyota OEM filter part no.?Which aftermarket filter comes closest as being equal to Toyota OEM?Why are the filter cans of different volume sizes?Anything else you can tell me about all this?Please help me clear this up, but I sorry for such a list of questions.

[DressedInBlack]

the OEM Toyota filter [box] i have has the part number 90915-YZZF1 on it.

[star_deceiver]

Quote, originally posted by Ivibe »My question is what ACDelco filter no. is GM # 88969580? AC Delco is a parts and service division of General Motors. GM filter # = AC Delco filter #What is the Toyota OEM filter part no.?90915-YZZF11990-2010 Toyota part list: http://www.toyotapart.com/Toyo...g.pdf

[ParknVibe]

Thanks for the large Toyota Parts cat. I finally confirmed the GM part number on the PF1233 filter replaces a lot of other numbers.... PF1233 - Duraguard Oil Filter ACD PF1233 - Duraguard Oil Filter Cross Reference for GM Part Number: 25161880 Supersedes: GM# 12339993, 12339995, 25010082, 25010339, 25161880, 25161881, 25329386, 25329391, 6439109, (88969580 in my car manual)88971573, 91173772, 94345246, 9484246, 94847351, 94848478, 94851858, 94851874, 94853643 & 94858995 -----------------------

[vibenvy]

The very first time I changed my oil, I bought the filter at the local GM dealer. It was around $13.00 and was an original Toyota filter in an AC Delco box, so after that I just started buying them at the Toyota dealer. The original Toyota part number was #90915-10004, but the next time I went in to buy a filter, the part number had changed to #90915-YZZF1. I do believe the later part numbered filter was a tiny bit taller than the original part numbered filter. We have not had any issues with the #90915-YZZF1 filter and have been using them for over a year now.On a bit of a side note, you can pickup a box of 10 genuine Toyota oil filters from TRD Sparks for about $3.50 ($1.10 cheaper than the dealer) a piece. I did this a few months ago, so needless to say we're set for oil filters for probably at least a year .

[wt2ga]

[star_deceiver]

40000kms on an oil filter..... I wonder how long before the filter will clog and the bypass valve activated... Is it a 10 micron filter or smaller? Bypass pressure? Filter volume compared to the OEM filter?EDIT: Well, he's gone.... The amsoil filter says 15 microns, fram is 20 microns, and ac delco is 25 microns. Bah... change whichever filter you have at 8000kms and be done with it!!!

[vibedrivermatt]

heres some of ones I usewell actually haven't used the toyota one yet but I may in the future. these are all good quality filters. toyota, napa, car quest

[vibedrivermatt]

BUMP- because I posted a picture...

[ParknVibe]

As you can see from your picture of the Toyota oil filter and the other two, The Toyota filter is a taller can size. I installed a PureOne Purolator and it is taller then the Delco one and perhaps the same height as the Toyota. Does anyone have a reason for this?

[tpollauf]

Not sure if this makes sense BUT if using synthetic oil, to where you'd drive an extra thousand or two miles, then you'd be better off with the larger filter as it would contain more surface area for filtration. Thus it wouldn't plug up as soon/often! Also, when filling up the crankcase with the proper manufacturer recommended capacity, the larger filter MAY actually show the full mark WHERE IT IS SUPPOSE TO BE I say this only because my first oil change had the smaller filter and when filling up the crankcase, my dipstick showed TOO much oil. No big deal BUT it may have been right on the "full" mark with a larger filter

[tpollauf]

Quote, originally posted by J_TO_ENVY »On a bit of a side note, you can pickup a box of 10 genuine Toyota oil filters from TRD Sparks for about $3.50 ($1.10 cheaper than the dealer) a piece. I did this a few months ago, so needless to say we're set for oil filters for probably at least a year .Thanks for this tip Carey. I just ordered me a case of them also. Unlike you & your mom, these will EASILY last me 10 years Thanks again

[j42.snyder]

I see from the above photo with the Carquest filter visible, that it's the smaller Toyota filter size they have called out for the Vibe. This seems to be an error in their listing.The one shown is a 85394 - which fits - but as you can see is smaller. The one they "should" list is 85396 - which is what they have listed for the Matrix.I found this out about a year ago. Fram's listings are correct, but any made by Wix (Carquest, NAPA, etc.) seem to have this listing error. Easiest solution - tell them you have a Matrix with the 2.4 and get the larger filter!Either one fits - but I'd rather have the larger media. The small Wix made filters, with their design of ADBV makes the media seem very small to me. I still think it's a better design than those used on Fram (and similar) filters though.If the Toyota filter can be had for a similar price though - I'd stick with it anyway. Around here, when I asked, the Toyota dealer wanted $7+ for their filter, Carquest was about the same for the premium "blue" series, or under $4 for the standard "red" series. I'm sure that any will do if the recommended interval is adhered to. IMHO the air filter is more important at keeping dirt out of there in the first place. As long as that's working, the oil filter should have a fairly easy job.John

[j42.snyder]

I made an error in my last post. I meant to refer to the bypass valve - not the ADBV (anti-drain back valve). It's the bypass valves that are rather different in the Wix made filters compared to most others.The ADBV mostly varies in material - silicone vs. nitrile. Silicone is considered as the better of the two for its better performance (flexibility and sealing ability) over a range of temperatures. On the 2.4 I'm not sure how important it is - as the filter is sitting "right side up" in this application. On applications where it's inverted or on its side - the ADBV is probably more important as is helps keep the filter full after the engine is shut off.Any more discussion here and people are going to think this is "Bob is the oil guy"!Sorry if I caused any confusion before! I was going to bed and realized what I'd done - so on went the computer again!John

[vibedrivermatt]

hmmm thats weird wonder why they list the bigger wix filter for the matrix and smaller for vibe? Strange indeed. Think Im gonna make a switch over to the larger Wix filter. I cant blame the guys at the auto parts store for that one though they did sell me a "vibe" filter. Maybe its a secret conspiracy to make the toyotas last longer than all the other cars? Dang if I had know that I'd have been using those filters long ago! Im sure the cars fine though even though its been running on the smaller filters. another interesting thing about the wix filters is that even though they're smaller than the toyota they're heavier. Perhaps this has to do the valve (which you just explained may do nothing anyways) thats in them or materials. I've noticed this valve doesn't seem to be present in the toyota filter. I always thought they were a notch above the toyota filters because of being at bit heavier but I suppose that could mean anything.

[Cougar Vibe]

Here are some parts numbers; if two filters are listed, the larger number is for the larger-sized filter. All of these filters can be used on the 1ZZ-series engine; the same is not true of the 2ZZ (for example, the SuperTech & Microgard).Wix 51394, 51396.Napa 1394 (Gold-Wix), 21394 (Pro-Select), 1396 (Gold-Wix), 21396 (Pro-Select)Carquest 85394 (Blue-Wix), 85396 (Blue-Wix).Purolator L14476 (Classic), PL14476 (PureOne), L14477 (Classic), PL14477 (PureOne).Pennzoil PZ-38, PO-38 (Performax).Bosch 3311 (Premium Plus), L3311 (Distance Plus).AC Delco PF1233.SuperTech ST4967.STP S4967. Baldwin B33, B37.Mobil1 M1-103.LuberFiner PH2840. Mann ML1009, ML1017.Amsoil EA15K09, EA15K10.Royal Purple 10-2840.Microgard MGL4967.Fram XG4967 - change "XG" for "TG," "HM," "GC" or "PH" (five different lines...apparently Fram can build five different types of crap).

[vibenvy]

Quote, originally posted by tpollauf »Thanks for this tip Carrie. I just ordered me a case of them also. Unlike you & your mom, these will EASILY last me 10 years Thanks again You're very welcome Tim ! We still have 7 filters left which should last us all of this year at the very least, than it will be time to order 10 more .

[ParknVibe]

Quote, originally posted by Cougar Vibe »Here are some parts numbers; if two filters are listed, the larger number is for the larger-sized filter. All of these filters can be used on the 1ZZ-series engine; the same is not true of the 2ZZ (for example, the SuperTech & Microgard).I want to thank you for taking the time to prepare the large list of brands of oil filters for the 2.4L engine. However, I think you should "edit in" the Toyota OEM filter part number at the top of the list. It would also be nice to have what "real" manufacture made the oil filter for each of the after market brands as well as the OEM brands. Someone on the internet did this about oil filters and show the inside constructions of various brands. I like to use filters that are made by manufactures who specialize in making them such as Purolator.

[j42.snyder]

To add briefly to the list - for Fram filters, for the 2AZ engine (2.4) they list the XX4386 (substitute previous list of PH, etc for XX) which is the larger filter. I must confess that I've been using some "Defense" DL4386 filters (made by Honeywell - same as Fram without the orange paint and black grippy stuff) that I picked up for under $3 each. I have one more left in my "stash" - but after that I'll probably try the basic "red" series from Carquest now that I know which one to ask for. I purchased a couple of their "blue" filters about a year ago - and when I noticed they were smaller I went searching for answers.Around here we don't seem to have so many (brands) to choose from - but a new Carquest was built along my route home recently - so that's why I'm likely going to go there. For the 8,000km intervals I'm doing (mostly highway), I doubt it matters much what I run - as long as I change it each time. I never get to the 3 months before running out of mileage.It's late again - so hopefully I made sense this time!John

[tpollauf]

Just received my case of 10 oil filters, via FedEx today I'm set for the next ten years now This would not have been possible without the helpful tips of you GenVibe members

[cq358]

I m from Toronto. Dealership close in long weekend when I usually do my LOF. Most of the car's life was done in GM dealers, they listed PF 1233 as the correct filter PN regardless of which vibe model yrs.03-08 with 1.8L engine or 09-10 with 2.4 L shallow oil pan version of 2az fe engine. As an results the error also carries to the aftermarket database. I have used Partsmaster( mfg by wix) using Vibe specific PN and Wix filter, using 09 Camry 4cyl spec.