I don't think that's it. Look at the second picture. That shows shearing bent _into_ the oil pan compartment, not outwards, as it would be if it was just the rod coming loose. I'm suspecting an impact from something underneath, then when the oil blew out - it ate itself.vibedrivermatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:55 am Wow ive never seen a sploaded vibe engine!
They must have forgot to put oil in it. As many of us 2.4l owners have experienced, these tend to drink oil. So, if you had one of these, never checked the oil or never changed the oil, eventually it would drink all its own oil and run dry, which i could see causing such a catastrophic failure.
You may be right. I just gave my best guess based on my personal experience with the engine. Perhaps the OP has a better insight as to what happened to it? The 2AZ is supposed to be pretty bullet proof. That things a camry engine.Bookworm wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:50 pmI don't think that's it. Look at the second picture. That shows shearing bent _into_ the oil pan compartment, not outwards, as it would be if it was just the rod coming loose. I'm suspecting an impact from something underneath, then when the oil blew out - it ate itself.
I don't know the whole story as I bought it from the step father of the driver and I wasn't too concerned because the price was right. It was sort of an impulse buy which frequently gets me into things I probably wouldn't do if given more consideration. It is a manual transmission so I suppose it would be possible to over rev it even if it has a rev limiter.vibedrivermatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:21 amYou may be right. I just gave my best guess based on my personal experience with the engine. Perhaps the OP has a better insight as to what happened to it? The 2AZ is supposed to be pretty bullet proof. That things a camry engine.Bookworm wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:50 pmI don't think that's it. Look at the second picture. That shows shearing bent _into_ the oil pan compartment, not outwards, as it would be if it was just the rod coming loose. I'm suspecting an impact from something underneath, then when the oil blew out - it ate itself.
Do you know what happened to it Jerry?
I hate that. Sometimes you'll read a procedure on how to fix or replace something on the car and think it looks straightforward, might take ten minutes, then you get hung up for two hours trying to solve some electrical connector, or trying to figure out how to access something no human could reach.
i know when doing the clutch, you should be able to just remove the trans, leaving the engine in place and resting on the subframe. You shouldn't have to remove subframe to do the clutch.JerryV wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:37 am Just looking at it, I see the transmission hangs under the body about an inch on the drivers side so it is going to be tight taking them out together too. For doing the clutch, I'm guessing you can drop the subframe and pull the transmission out the drivers side while leaving the engine in place. I can probably look that up in the service manual DVD.
That's good to know. Fill us in on your dilemma and why you needed to replace the engine. What $$$ did you have in this swap? Mileage on car? thanksWeimarman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:11 pm Pulled mine out the top with trans. Very easy. 1st engine swap. Got a 65k donor engine from a 2015 Scion xB. Japanese built engine. Direct swap. No timing chain cover swap, and engines mounts perfect. Only thing I had to swap was the passenger side CV axle support.
Excellent! Thanks for the info. Was yours a JDM motor or salvage yard? I was looking at pictures of some motors and I noticed that there didn't seem to be the spot for the motor mount on the timing cover. I assume that is what you meant about the timing cover swap. Is yours a 5 speed manual too?Weimarman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:11 pm Pulled mine out the top with trans. Very easy. 1st engine swap. Got a 65k donor engine from a 2015 Scion xB. Japanese built engine. Direct swap. No timing chain cover swap, and engines mounts perfect. Only thing I had to swap was the passenger side CV axle support.
Mine is automatic. Came from salvage yard. Very detailed, with lots of pics of car and engine. I had no problem with passenger axle. Just unbolted the support from engine and removed whole. In great shape (GA car, 85k miles), so no need to separate support from axle. My problem was driver's side. Ended up leaving axle in transmission. Lowering car to ground, and pulling engine, transmission, and axle all out at once. Of course, once out, axle was easily removed.JerryV wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:43 pmExcellent! Thanks for the info. Was yours a JDM motor or salvage yard? I was looking at pictures of some motors and I noticed that there didn't seem to be the spot for the motor mount on the timing cover. I assume that is what you meant about the timing cover swap. Is yours a 5 speed manual too?Weimarman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:11 pm Pulled mine out the top with trans. Very easy. 1st engine swap. Got a 65k donor engine from a 2015 Scion xB. Japanese built engine. Direct swap. No timing chain cover swap, and engines mounts perfect. Only thing I had to swap was the passenger side CV axle support.
I have only been able to work on mine a couple hours here and there. It seems to be taking a long time. I had quite a bit of trouble getting the axles out; especially the passenger side with that #@%# bearing support. Finally had to take the support off the engine, pry it out far enough to clear the pins and whack on it to clear the transmission. Hoping I can put it in a press and get the bearing out so it will go back together easier.
Jerry
Thanks. Good amount of work. Did most of it with my son. Was a great learning experience for both of us. A lot of satisfaction at the end of it.
Sounds like a good deal. Mine had 155k and winters in Minnesota with the great salt baths the state provides. A GA car probably has no corrosion anywhere. If I ever do something like this again, I will look for a southern vehicle.Weimarman wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:57 am
Mine is automatic. Came from salvage yard. Very detailed, with lots of pics of car and engine. I had no problem with passenger axle. Just unbolted the support from engine and removed whole. In great shape (GA car, 85k miles), so no need to separate support from axle. My problem was driver's side. Ended up leaving axle in transmission. Lowering car to ground, and pulling engine, transmission, and axle all out at once. Of course, once out, axle was easily removed.
I noticed all jdm motors had the same timing cover mounting bracket as my wife's Solara, and they said you would have to swap oil pan also. The Vibe, Matrix, and Scion XB have matching timing covers and mounts.
Too bad you're not closer. I would donate the engine I removed for your rebuild. Just more work than I was up for!JerryV wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:53 pm We are on lockdown here so I have had some more time to work on my project.
Anyway, the engine is now officially junk. I was hoping to at least save the block and rebuild it with whatever parts were needed so I would have a like new engine, but I think a used engine is my best option now.
Jerry