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Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by john188971 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:13 am

Good morning!
New to this forum!
I just purchased a 2006 base vibe last week.
67k it was a Chicago car. 95% city driving.
So true to the way I do things. I'm checking and changing everything!
So my question.
What automatic transmission fluid do I use?
I've read alot of the posts but most of them are 10-12 years old. There has been tons of advancements in oils in that amount of time. Someone posted a gm tsb stating T-IV is the proper fluid. However the tsb was dated 2008. When I Google this it brings up several multi use fluids, leading me to believe T-IV isn't required with today's synthetic options.
I've switch to Mobil 1 5w-30 and changed the spark plugs. Changed the serpentine belt. Noticed my oil pan is leaking a bit (will fix next oil change).
If need be I'll use the T-IV fluid but if there's something as good or better out now I'd like to use that.
Thanks in advance for any help

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Re: Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by Derf » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:28 am

Thier have been many advancements and reformulations in oils over the past few years. Many oil manufcatures will label their oil with combatible with "xxx" oil or meets or exceeds OEM specification "xxx" When shopping for oil look for those on the label. This helps ensure the additives and properites of the oil are compatible with what is currently in your vehicle. Been using multi spec fluid for many years without issue, the key is to make sure the spec of your vehicle is listed on the label.
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Re: Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by FeelTheVibe2004 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:49 am

I recently bought some trans fluid from GM for about 7$ a bottle.
It's no longer named T-IV though...it's branded Dexron-VI.
Either way I just added about 250ml worth...no biggie.
But, in the future, I will go to Toyota for fluids. :)
When asked, the parts clerk told me that the number change was just to tell old stock from new stock & that the old version.

Oil has a shelf life of about 3-5 years for unopened bottles, depending on the type. 5 seems excessive, so I usually try to get my oil from reliable big stores that have big turnover as opposed to smaller shops. Once opened, I try to use it up within the year. :geek:
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Re: Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by john188971 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:42 am

Thanks for all the responses.
Castrol transmax comes up as an exact match for the vibe at advanced auto. Full synthetic. On sale currently for $4.00 a quart.
Price really isn't an issue. Availability more so. I have a mighty vac that I use to remove oil from pan, then refill and run for a minute . I do that 2-3 times. Then drop the pan and change filter. I'm going to be doing more highway than city driving. Quite a change from its previous owner. Any other suggestions, maintenance I'm missing?
Thanks again
John

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Re: Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by Vulcan05 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:22 am

The parts clerk at the GM dealership was selling parts and/or fluids for a GM car. Your car is a Toyota. Go to a Toyota dealership.
Don't put anything with the word "Dexron" in any part of your car.
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Re: Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by john188971 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:52 pm

So the Castrol transmax should be fine? Says it's for Honda, Toyota, and Nissan. And no where does it say dextron!
I'm going to get some fluid today, but I'm tossed up on filter. May be a online order.

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Re: Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by FeelTheVibe2004 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:51 pm

If it specifically states so, I wouldn't worry, unless the specified otherwise in the instructions.
As for the oil filters...generally speaking, dealer parts are usually of better quality and durability.
I always use genuine filters for the engine. I recall a video of someone dissecting multiple brands of filters...wasn't impressed by other ''lower end'' filters.

Although, many parts are waaaay overpriced and don't justify the price, that's not really the case for a genuine toyota oil filter compared to aftermarket filters like FRAM for my cabin filter, but that's about it.
Compare between GM & Toyota, there's usually a dollar or two difference.
My 2 cents. :)
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Re: Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by Mark » Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:20 pm

When I do a change on my two Vibes I go to the local Toyota dealership and buy a case of the T-IV fluid.

Would not go to the GM dealer, and would definitely not use Dexron fluid.

I do two drain and fills a week or two apart, it takes 3.5 qts each. I picked up a filter/gasket kit from NAPA some time ago for the 04, but when I looked at it and saw that the "filter" was really just a screen, and not a particularly fine one at that, there was absolutely no reason to bother. Some day if I really have to drop the pan for something else I'll have a new filter and gasket handy, but I wouldn't drop the pan just to change the filter.
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Re: Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by runningslow » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:51 am

Forgive me for posting a link to another forum, but I use this list as a reference for parts and fluids: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/132-9 ... hread.html

Based on the recommendations there, I used Valvoline MaxLife Dex/Merc when I did my fluid change. Got it quite cheap from Wal-Mart.
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Re: Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by john188971 » Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:06 pm

Mark,
You were right on target!
On a whim I called my local toyota dealer. They sold me a case for $66 with tax. I asked about the filter. He said "well if your not having any troubles we recommend leaving the filter. It's just a screen "
So that's what I just did. Sucked out 4 quarts from the dip stuck tube and refilled twice. I have enough to do it 1 more time but the fluid looks really good now.


Maybe I should start another thread. But a couple more questions for the masters on this forum.
During my detailed inspections I found oil on top of my valve cover. Seems like coil pack gaskets are leaking?
Also seems to have a little oily sludge, looking at the engine from the front, under valve cover on left side of engine. Didn't seem like valve cover but not 100% on that.
I'm not really good at checking my oil periodically. If it don't leak, don't burn, why check it! I do all my own services so I'm the first guy that will know when somethings leaking! Can't use that thinking currently, so I want to rectify it!
Let me know if I should start a new thread.
Thanks again

Oh ya forgot to mention. Mobil makes T-IV trans fluid for toyota. It's mobil 3309 I believe. Same price.

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Re: Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by trb » Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:06 pm

Don't know if you realized it, but there is a drain plug on the transmission. So you don't have to use the vacuum pump, and you can drain out all of the trans fluid and any stuff that settles in the bottom of the pan. And I used only T-IV on my son's 06 Vibe, and plan to change it again this summer. I have a full case of fluid so he will be set for several years.

We are using synthetic Mobil 1 in my 03 GT since the prior owner used only it for about 180K miles, and Mobil 1 filters. On my son's car we use Pennzoil Platinum or Mobil 1 with the Toyota filters or K&N, which I get with the oil in a package deal sometimes.

Good luck with it!
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Re: Automatic transmission fluid type

Post by john188971 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:14 am

Trb,
Thanks for your reply. Yes I'm aware of the drain plug. Much faster with mighty vac. Sucked it out twice, refilled twice and test drive. 30 minutes. The vacuum ia actually the recommended tool to change engine oil in a Mercedes Benz. I had a 2005 e320 cdi up till last summer.
I did also order a 10 pack of crush washers for future oil changes.
Thanks to all for the advice.
I'll start another thread about the other issues.

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