2010 manual oil recommendation error?

[ParknVibe]

As I read from owner's of the 2010 Vibe herein, concerning the printing of 5-W-30 weight oil in the owner's manual as oppose to what's called for on the oil filler cap 5-W-20. Has there been GM/Pontiac reply of the discrepancy? What about the Toyota Matrix manual?Do we all agree that the engines must use 5-W-20 or 0-W-20 weight oil?PS: I have just compared the two manuals from the PDF copies on this site, and can see that on that oil recommendation page, the paragraphs were switched around.

[star_deceiver]

Quote, originally posted by Ivibe »Do we all agree that the engines must use 5-W-20 or 0-W-20 weight oil?Yes!

[Jyik40]

You can use a 5w-30 oil without any problems. But yes, the toyota engines call for a 0w-20 or a 5w-20 oil. What engine does your Vibe have? The 1,8 or the 2.4?

[csxt8058]

I just got my complimentary 3000 mile oil change done at the dealer this past Saturday, and they put 5W-30 oil in it. I've got a 2010 AWD, 2.4L JR

[ParknVibe]

>>>>>You can use a 5w-30 oil without any problems. But yes, the toyota engines call for a 0w-20 or a 5w-20 oil. What engine does your Vibe have? The 1,8 or the 2.4? <<<<I have the 2009 Vibe basic with 2.4L and auto trans. I only have 3400 miles on the car that's 1-1/2 years old. As I mentioned in past comments, my dealer over filled the oil by 1/2" to 3/4" and I think it could be 5W-30 oil. I took out one quart and still have it above the top dot. I just compared a drop of 5W-20 to the oil in the engine and they both look and pour at the same rate down a sloped smooth surface. So, maybe I now have the correct 5W-20 oil in the engine. However, the original oil in the enginal (from the factory) was so thin I could not see it on the dip stick.

[KOz1]

I have a 2009 Vibe 2.4 liter 5Spd Auto.Im pretty sure the oil that came with it was 0w20 as it was about as thick as water.The weird thing is at 600kms there was a black residue on the Dipstick at 900kms it was worse, so I had them change the oil at 1200kms they confirmed it is 5W20 and it looks thicker than the original oil and a different color. Im even getting better mileage now which is just plain strange.Anyone else had this issue?

[oriden]

i used 5W20 in my 2005 1.8L Automaticit made no difference against 5w30 and since its whats on the cap and in my manual it calls for 5W30

[truepath]

I would vote for 5W30. It is a little heavier and I think provides better lubrication. There might be an unmeasurable reduction in MPG from 5W20.

[21Rouge]

Quote, originally posted by oriden »i used 5W20 in my 2005 I have had a 2005 standard transmission Vibe since 2005 and am considering using a 0W20 this fall as the car gets very short trips, rarely getting up to operating temp so a thinner oil might be yield slightly better protection. I am just curious re your on going experience using 5W20. Do you use it all year round? How long have you been using it? Did you notice any consumption with this grade over 5W30? PS Has anyone ever determined why the use of 5W20 was backspec'd only as far back as the 2006 1ZZFE. So what is the difference(s) between the 05 and 06 1ZZFE engines?

[lovemyraffe]

Quote, originally posted by 21Rouge » Has anyone ever determined why the use of 5W20 was backspec'd only as far back as the 2006 1ZZFE. So what is the difference(s) between the 05 and 06 1ZZFE engines?I don't think there is a difference between the two. I use 5w30 and have never had a problem.

[21Rouge]

Quote, originally posted by lovemyraffe »I don't think there is a difference between the two. But then the question naturally arises i.e. why didn't Toyota backspec the use of a 20 grade oil to 2005 (and earlier) cars having a 1ZZFE engine?

[10vibe]

EDIT: 10-11-2011Pontiac Vibe manuals:2010 hard copy that came with Vibe (manufactured 5/09):Part No. 20784572 A First Printing 2008 GMOil suggested 5w or 0w-30 GM6094M (wrong)auto transmission fluid WS (correct)Gmownercenter.yahoo.com:2010 pdf:Part No. 20784572 A First Printing 2008 GMOil suggested 5w or 0w-30 GM6094M (wrong)auto transmission fluid WS (correct)Pontiac.com:2010 pdf:Part No. 25823089 B Second Printing 2008 GMoil suggested 5w or 0w-20 GM6094M (correct)auto transmission fluid T-IV (wrong)2009 pdf:Part No. 25823089 B Second Printing 2008 GMoil suggested 5w or 0w-20 GM6094M (correct)auto transmission fluid T-IV (wrong)2008 pdf:Part No. 15863403 A First Printing 2007 GM oil suggested 5w or 0w-30 GM6094M (correct)auto transmission fluid T-IV (correct)2010 oil fill cap on 1.8L suggests 5w or 0w-202010 1.8L auto transmission dipstick indicates WST-IV and WS ATF are incompatible.As for coolant, Dex-Cool (wrong)! Depending on year, either Toyota long life concentrated red or the newer Toyota super long life pink, 50/50 premix. Zerex Asian Phosphated HOAT (P-HOAT or POAT) 50/50 premix might be an acceptable replacement. Other Asian OEM's P-HOAT coolants and Motorcraft deep green P-HOAT would probably be acceptable too.Anybody signed up for a 2009 Vibe at the Gmownercenter.yahoo.com to see which manual they are pushing?