HIREV - Your math seems fuzzy. $21,800 - 7.750 discounts etc. nets $14,050 not $15,850.

Insurance is not insurance. Need to look at coverage and location. In Columbus, OH I have $500,000 single limit bodily injury and property damage liability, $500,000 uninsured/underinsured, $5,000 med pay, $500 ded collisision, $50 ded comprehensive and a $22/day loss of use (which is useless - thin...

Thankfully I got into this VIBE thing a little later. Paid $18,880 MSRP for a PT Cruiser in August 2001. No rebates, no discount. (Some idiots were paying $2,000 over MSRP.) The $2,003 additional GM Card Rebate got me interested in a VIBE near the end of January. $18,690 MSRP less $2,003 less 2,000 ...