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Lucky317

^^ that was aimed at the I/E comment lol well, the price of these may be reduced. he's gonna wait for the dynos to get done before he makes the final decision.

Lucky317

imagine at any rpm having 10 more whp and some areas having 20 - 25 whp increases. that's what I expect it to be like. it's like going from stock to I/E x 2

Lucky317

you will be lucky to hit 5 whp with that and you need to learn the difference between peak power and power across the whole power band.

Lucky317

expected price is $1100 - $1300 just for the camyou'll need an ecu upgrade. this will run you around another $1000 give or take. then add at least $500 for tuning. worst case scenario - $2800 now as far as gains - peak HP is NOT the only thing to look at.

Lucky317

damn beats me lol my worst ever was a 22 second run lol we pulled my butterfly valve out right before I lined up and as soon as I hit WOT the car died lol aparently the ecu needed time to adjust and I didnt know that cause i had the car a total of 3 days lol

Lucky317

realistically here's what I would guess.....10 whp peak gain OVER I/E power fcand I expect the ENTIRE power band to shift 10 whp higher with mid range gains as high as 25 whp. can't hold me to that cause its just an estimate based on the specs and my experience tuning my car in th past.

Lucky317

that will depend on how much power we make up top. valves/springs wont be needed but strongly advised to have if you plan on reving over 8,600 rpms. I will be dynoing on stock valves and springs.

Lucky317

This is for you vibe GT owners looking to make more power yes, I actually have them in my hand :D I picked them up last night. next step is to get them installed and do my before/after dynos. I'll keep everyone updated on the progress and let you know as soon as I have the dynos. Bad news is that th...

Lucky317

thanx. this is one of those things the dealers never tell you about lol

Lucky317

crower said today that the cams are ready to ship right now. the retainers however are on a 2 week delay.

Lucky317

if you have AIM you could send em to me. I have a server that I could host em on.

Lucky317

yeah I stop by that site every so often lol. I'm waiting on these damn cams. I'm gonna have to re-shim all the valves so sooner I get the cams the sooner I can get started lol I was gonna just order the ones I think could be it. but then I found out they are $11 a piece lol

Lucky317

unless you have a server with ftp access you'll be hard pressed to get that large of a file uploaded anywhere.

Lucky317

ok cool just checkin lol I've never seen a vibe up close in person so I wasnt sure.

Lucky317

looks bogus to me. tese ecu's are notorius for overriding things like this. also if its too good to be true......

Lucky317

then it'll look just like the 1 I posted a pic of.

Lucky317

Quote, originally posted by Lucky317 Â»you'll have to forgive my ignorance on this one cause that setup is different then what I usually deal with on the celicas. I'm gonna circle what I think you're talkin about so please lemme know if I'm right. cause I'm not sure wha ti"m lookin at in that p...

Lucky317

you'll have to forgive my ignorance on this one cause that setup is different then what I usually deal with on the celicas. I'm gonna circle what I think you're talkin about so please lemme know if I'm right. cause I'm not sure wha ti"m lookin at in that pic.

Lucky317

I'm trying to have mine ready. but it'll depend on m engine it may be outa the car that weekend lol

Lucky317

just lookin for the 2zz wont help cause the piping and fitment would be different for the vibe then say the celica.

Lucky317

it's not the whoel tranny. it's just the "guts" lol I believe it was the output shaft that was reversed from the celica tranny. we had to do some modification and drilling to get a matrix XRS tranny to fit in the celica. so I'm fairly certain the vibe has the same setup as the matrix so th...

Lucky317

the intakes should fit on the DBW versions. I dont see why they wouldnt be able to. Nitrous shouldnt be an issue either. we ran a 75 shot on a DBW 2zz celica with no problems.

Lucky317

I'm not invited cause I'm not from SD lol.... J/p I honestly dont know. might wanna go stop by the pacific forums on http://www.everythingcelica.com

Lucky317

thanx I am rather attached to them mysef

Lucky317

oh and I forgot to answer your question lol 3ZZ is a coined term by the company Trial. It's basically a hybrid and stroked version of the 1zz and 2zz. it's primarily aimed at N/A people cause they advertise it with 13:1 compression. it's listed on trial's website.

Lucky317

actually it was rumored about that. he's building a VERY nice 2zz lol it's waiting on the stroker kit now. it's right now got the 8.8:1 compression, new valves/springs, etc.....I gotta remember to say 1zz instead of gt on here lol if you check out http://www.controlledinertia.com the celica GT has a...

Lucky317

here is the basics of what the attachment says.......___________________________stage 1: Street use with emphasis on bottom to mid-range power.....can be used with stock retainers and stock rev-limiter. RPM range idle to 7000+ rpm. Lobe Center 114 DEG. Duration is 268 / 260..... even though stock is...

Lucky317

Quote, originally posted by MadBill Â»Here's Crower's Toyota listings, but no 1ZZ applications are shown:http://www.crower.com/cat/impo...shtml (Sometimes the website is an afterthought for bigger/older companies, so maybe they're just slow at posting the new info.)If you email them you will get thi...

Lucky317

the 2zz intake manifold is not horrific. but it could use a lil sprucing up. the exhaust manifold though can result in a 5whp increase from porting it. several peopl eon the celica boards have done it and hit those numbers.

Lucky317

if it was that bad of a vacuum leak you'd have other problems like the car not wanting to run lol to check yourself spray a lil brake kleen around the TB and manifold. if the idle jumps at any point then you have a leak

Lucky317

hmm would have to be a pontiac thing then. the celicas 1zz didnt get dbw. that really sucks for you guys.

Lucky317

theres actually a big sandiego meet being planned on the everythingcelica.com as well. most the bigger meets are don in SD.

Lucky317

I just heard that the 1ZZ cams have been oficially released by crower. they also released titanium retainers as well. they offer a stage 1 which is slightly more power. a forced induction specific cam for all you turbo fans and they released a stage 2 & 3 N/A race only cam. they are very cheap a...

Lucky317

very nice. it's pretty slow for me too.

Lucky317

check the celica boards. there will be dynos of some prototype cams that should be posted n the next week or so.

Lucky317

yeah, the site changed.

Lucky317

I had a chance to see your car at stafford shop when it wasnt even done yet lol. the celica you're refering to is owned by a teamate of mine. he had the SF kit with a few changes. he had 525 cc injectors and the power fc. he had a faulty boost controller so we were creeping from 6psi to 11psi and ba...

Lucky317

if you're looking for cams keep an eye on the celica boards I'm gonna try to make sure the info gets copied here as well. a company named TPR shoudl have dynos of the first protoype cams that are going to be sold next week. also a company called forcedfed is going to try and have a prototype dyno ou...

Lucky317

the 1zz never got the DBW setup so it's possible you were looking at a GT model with the 2zz? cuase on the celicas at least anything from 2003 -2005 have the DBW setup for the 2zz.

Lucky317

wheres the whistle coming from and how loud s it?? could be a belt issue. It's definitely NOT a rev limit warning.

Lucky317

that will do nothing for ya really lol only ting that will work is a crank pulley. but because they are undampened you DON'T wanna get one. the oil pump gears on the 1zz and 2zz even more are not that stong. the unbalanced harmonics will destroy it. has happened more then a few times to the celica p...

Lucky317

could be a linkage problem. check to make sure everything is connected and aligned as it should be. next guess after that would be synchros lol but I cant imagine doing what you did would kill the synchro that fast.

Lucky317

I dont like that track lol I dont go there all that often. if you go look for a turbo GT celica with a controlled inertia sticker on it. its one of my teamates that lives right there so he goes all the time.

Lucky317

thanx for the welcome

Lucky317

only in theory. I havent seen any before/after dynos of it. I've talked to 1 person who actually installed it but he just wanted to have it. didnt actually care if it really worked lol so he wasnt gonna spend money to dyno it.

Lucky317

yeah , I knew that. lol gotta train my typing to not say that lol I been trying to say only 1z zor 2zz.

Lucky317

if you're in Socal and frequent any of the tracks around here you may have seen me around I usually hang around Irwindale, california speedway, LACR.I've also been down to qualcomm. anyways just letting ya know I'll be hangin around these forums a bit

Lucky317

we'd welcome vibes at our meets as well cause we all got the same motors so you're kinda one of the family lol

Lucky317

^^ i'd consider that a good thing lol

Lucky317

there may be more 1zz's but there are more 2zz's lookin for all out N/A performance lol the GT is going to be easier and most likely cheaper to produce anyways. so no worries, it'll come in due time.

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Re: 1ZZ cams are out. Thanx to crower! (MadBill)

1ZZ cams are out. Thanx to crower!

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