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by alex_nrv
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:40 am
Forum: Maintenance Bay
Topic: 2.4L Sepentine belt removal/Alternator/ (2009-2010)
Replies: 9
Views: 20147

Re: 2.4L Sepentine belt removal/Alternator/ (2009-2010)

I just changed my alternator on my PONTIAC VIBE 2009 2.4L. Just like the OP, I couldn't find much info about releasing the tension on the belt, as much as replacing the alternator. I've read many texts and watched a lot of videos about older Vibes and Matrix, but never a video exactly like my car ve...
by alex_nrv
Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:45 pm
Forum: The Vibe Lounge
Topic: Fixed my 2009 Gt broken radio knob!
Replies: 101
Views: 143657

Re: Fixed my 2009 Gt broken radio knob!

Well, it finally happened... the volume knob on my Vibe broke last weekend :roll:. Thank goodness for the steering wheel controls! I will definitely be referencing this thread when I get time to fix it. That's too bad. Not a hard job, but a pain in the (removed) when you actually have to do it :P G...
by alex_nrv
Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:03 am
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Tow Ready ModuLite when upin smoke.
Replies: 10
Views: 2012

Re: Tow Ready ModuLite when upin smoke.

Oh shish !!! You really were lucky it didn't cath on fire, specially in the garage. Ouch... Let's just assume it was a rare case of T-One modules going bad... I have one of those Tow Ready T-One for my '09. Like you said, I also only used the connector 4 or 5 times only, I barely use the hitch for t...
by alex_nrv
Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:14 am
Forum: The Vibe Lounge
Topic: Fixed my 2009 Gt broken radio knob!
Replies: 101
Views: 143657

Re: Fixed my 2009 Gt broken radio knob!

After initially reading this problem like 3 years ago, I knocked on wood since my knobs were going very well and no signs would point that they would fail. I considered myself lucky! Last week, I left for work and wanted to adjust the bass a little bit and noticed that the right knob was stiff. So I...
by alex_nrv
Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:09 pm
Forum: Engine & Transmission
Topic: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption
Replies: 12
Views: 4127

Re: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption

Been a long while since this thread is standing still, thought it might be good for future readers to post about the outcomes since then. Winter seems to be the culprit. During summers, I regain my 500km+ per tank. When winter is coming, I immediately see the mileage drop little by little... about 4...
by alex_nrv
Tue May 27, 2014 8:22 am
Forum: Interior
Topic: the vibe can haul........
Replies: 227
Views: 205019

Re: the vibe can haul........

New house, I now have a yard. Having a yard of my own gives me the opportunity to have a little fireplace outside... BUT I needed wood to burn. I went to a local wood seller and bought a half-cord of logs. When I arrived, he asked me how many logs I wanted... When I told him half a cord, he looked a...
by alex_nrv
Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:03 pm
Forum: Problems & Warranty Issues
Topic: Check Engine + SensaTrac + VSC OFF *flashing*
Replies: 75
Views: 92966

Re: Check Engine + SensaTrac + VSC OFF *flashing*

Our 2010 Vibe, with 65,000 miles, is have the same Check Engine, Traction Control, and VSC Light Flashing. Check engine code is P0138.....O2 sensor. I cleared the code, with my scanner last week, and now it's back. Just cleared it again and checked the gas cap. Has there been any definitive solutio...
by alex_nrv
Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:07 am
Forum: Interior
Topic: the vibe can haul........
Replies: 227
Views: 205019

Re: the vibe can haul........

So my move from the apartment to the new house is a thing of the past! I did some great hauling with the Vibe and a medium size trailer. Now, in the new nouse, I had to replace the electric water heater. The hardware store I prefer (Home Depot) is located in my birth city, which is 20 minutes away f...
by alex_nrv
Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:32 am
Forum: Interior
Topic: the vibe can haul........
Replies: 227
Views: 205019

Re: the vibe can haul........

I bought my first house this summer and I will be moving from Oct. 12th to the 26th. On the 26th, all the big things (oven, fridge, wash and dry machines, etc...) will be loaded in a big moving truck. But all the smaller things and boxes will be moved before the "big day". I am SOOO GLAD t...
by alex_nrv
Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:26 am
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Disabling the DRL on 09 Vibe
Replies: 17
Views: 5233

Re: Disabling the DRL on 09 Vibe

I looked at the schematics in the service manual and I don't see any reason why cutting the dark blue wire in this mod would have any effect on the fog lamp mod. Does the DRL mod work when you have it enabled? If you cut the wrong blue wire, I could see it causing problems with the fog lamp mod tho...
by alex_nrv
Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:58 am
Forum: Problems & Warranty Issues
Topic: Check Engine + SensaTrac + VSC OFF *flashing*
Replies: 75
Views: 92966

Re: Check Engine + SensaTrac + VSC OFF *flashing*

I wanted to tell to all of you guys that my problem seemed to be "gone". I really need to knock HARD on wood, I hope I won't have another flashing lights episode this fall... But normally, my VSC/SENSATRAC problem would occur during the late spring/summer/early fall... When the weather is ...
by alex_nrv
Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:54 am
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Turning off headlights 09 Vibe
Replies: 85
Views: 54695

Re: Turning off headlights 09 Vibe

Hey guys! I just made a how-to video on installing a simple switch for your '09+ Vibe DRL's, if anyone cares to see it or would like help...unfortunately I already finished the job before I decided to make the video so I don't have any technical tips but it's still useful! http://www.youtube.com/wa...
by alex_nrv
Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:03 pm
Forum: Interior
Topic: the vibe can haul........
Replies: 227
Views: 205019

Re: the vibe can haul........

size matters here :) one set was 275/35R18's for the slicks. The other 2 sets were 275/40R20's for the Magnum. Vibe tires are one thing, the 20's eat up major space and use every last inch to get it done. Can honestly probably get 4 sets of vibe tires in the car with ease. OH, yeah, of course! Sorr...
by alex_nrv
Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:40 am
Forum: Interior
Topic: the vibe can haul........
Replies: 227
Views: 205019

Re: the vibe can haul........

3 sets of tires with hatch and glass closed. car was still easily drivable with nothing overhanging the passenger seat area. http://db.tt/LJVyAQMb This is cool! :D And nice "slicks" ! But I am "not amazed" because I knew this would fit in. I fitted 2 sets of tires mounted on rim...
by alex_nrv
Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:08 am
Forum: Problems & Warranty Issues
Topic: Check Engine + SensaTrac + VSC OFF *flashing*
Replies: 75
Views: 92966

Re: Check Engine + SensaTrac + VSC OFF *flashing*

So I got the same error codes...all three!! The dashboard was lit up like a Christmas tree! Took it to the dealer and got error codes P0607 & P0138 & C1201....02 sensor shorted to the ECM! F'kn great! Dealer wants over $1K+.... Anyone else get there ECM fixed and still get the error codes??...
by alex_nrv
Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:38 am
Forum: Engine & Transmission
Topic: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption
Replies: 12
Views: 4127

Re: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption

Yesterday, I topped my tank and added 2$ extra after the first auto-release of the gun. I then went home (which is 2 minutes away from the gas station). Then, I had a 35 minutes drive to do, highway only, no traffic lights, no traffic. When I arrived in the city I needed to go, I went to a gas stati...
by alex_nrv
Tue May 28, 2013 7:47 am
Forum: Engine & Transmission
Topic: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption
Replies: 12
Views: 4127

Re: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption

Last Sunday, I was able to fill in 42 liters and my light was not even lit (but I'm sure it was about to). I was at about 450 km on the odo. I could have easily reach the 500km while driving with th elow fuel light ON. That tank was used on 90% highway.
by alex_nrv
Wed May 22, 2013 5:00 am
Forum: Engine & Transmission
Topic: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption
Replies: 12
Views: 4127

Re: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption

OK, well I got to the gas station yesterday after work, I was at 501 km. When I filled the tank up, I was able to fill 43 liters (I rounded it up)! Maybe I could have pushed it to 45 or 46 liters, filling-up slowly. Sooo... If I refer to the user's manual, there must have been somewhere around 7 lit...
by alex_nrv
Tue May 21, 2013 6:48 am
Forum: Engine & Transmission
Topic: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption
Replies: 12
Views: 4127

Re: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption

I am getting close to 500 km with a full tank, half city half highway. The low fuel light came on this morning at 475 km. I am at 489 km right now and tonight I will hit the 500 km+ while I'm heading to the gas station. I KNOW for sure I can drive at least 35km on the low fuel light, and probably ev...
by alex_nrv
Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:04 am
Forum: Engine & Transmission
Topic: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption
Replies: 12
Views: 4127

Re: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption

Alex; we have the same drive train configuration ... 2.4L with the 5 speed manual. Summer highway driving nets me 36-37 mpg (15.3-15.7 km/l) BUT the winter driving it dropped to 33-34 MPG (14-14.4 km/l) so the winter blend definitely affects our fuel economy :x . My best tank (summer time) was 420 ...
by alex_nrv
Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:44 am
Forum: Engine & Transmission
Topic: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption
Replies: 12
Views: 4127

Re: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption

OK, wow.That's gonna be an easy clean up for that MAF! Super duper easy. I hope this will somehow help with the fuel economy. I used several tools to convert my L/100km to MPG, and the calculation comes to 23 MPG (10L/100km). So, by knowing my MPG, I can now compare with users on this forum, and 23 ...
by alex_nrv
Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:29 am
Forum: Engine & Transmission
Topic: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption
Replies: 12
Views: 4127

Re: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption

It's starting to be in average 60 degrees F around here (15 celcius). Nights can still drop to about 37 degrees F (3 celcius). Mornings like today are about 43 F (6 C). This week-end will be the hottest since spring, and next week should be also a great week, with an average of 68ish F (20 C). I wil...
by alex_nrv
Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:58 am
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Disabling the DRL on 09 Vibe
Replies: 17
Views: 5233

Re: Disabling the DRL on 09 Vibe

Question on my 2009 vibe the automatic headlights come ever time I put it into gear tried unplugging sensor and the wire cut. They still come on. Weird anybody have any suggestions? HEADLIGHTS -or- DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS? These 2 are different. When you unplug the sensor or cut the wire, all you ac...
by alex_nrv
Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:49 am
Forum: Engine & Transmission
Topic: 2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption
Replies: 12
Views: 4127

2009 Vibe 2.4L Fuel consumption

Hi! I took some time to browse the internet and GenVibe about fuel consumption, and didn't find much similar to my problem, so I decided to post about my specific problem. I have Pontiac Vibe 2009, 5-spd manual, FWD, 2.4L. When I got the car 2 years ago (used), I used to drive easily over 500km with...
by alex_nrv
Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:31 am
Forum: Interior
Topic: the vibe can haul........
Replies: 227
Views: 205019

Re: the vibe can haul........

Fall 2012, I changed my tires for the winter ones, plus the ones on my GF's car. So I had to carry 8 tires and many miscellaneous stuff, like the baby seat (unattatched so I was able to get the seats full down), wrench, nuts, my work backpack, lunch bag and some shopping bags. Everything fitted extr...
by alex_nrv
Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:23 pm
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Turning off headlights 09 Vibe
Replies: 85
Views: 54695

Re: (Jims08Vibe)

Quote, originally posted by Jims08Vibe »Procedure the same for 2008? I HATE the lack of control over the lights! I finally grew some.... I cut the wire... Red with white stripe. It appears that I have total control over my headlights. I will test it tonight in the dark to see if auto headlights ki...
by alex_nrv
Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:52 pm
Forum: For Sale/Wanted
Topic: Updated 11.04.12 - Everything's gone!
Replies: 7
Views: 1320

Re: FREE! Miscellaneous bulbs, radar detector & more...

Hey Vibenvy! I PM'd you. Just wondering if you got my messages or not? They seem to be stuck in the OUTBOX folder instead of going into the SENT MESSAGES one... Just tell me if you got them or not. If you didn't, I guess I have a serious PM problem on GenVibe.com!!! Thanks! P.S.: Here's the list of ...
by alex_nrv
Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:31 pm
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Turning off headlights 09 Vibe
Replies: 85
Views: 54695

Re: Turning off headlights 09 Vibe (lowincash)

This is for the '09 Corolla - May help you, Do it at your own risk since I do not own a '09 vibe..1) Remove the glove compartment2) Locate the DRL module. Its a black unit mounted sideways with a wiring harness plugged in the side of it.3) Unplug the harness from the module4) Cut the blue wire at p...
by alex_nrv
Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:11 am
Forum: Tech Info & Do-It-Yourself Info
Topic: Auto Headlight Disable but Keep DRL's (Daytime Running Lights) 2009-2010 Mod!
Replies: 14
Views: 6315

Re: Auto Headlight Disable but Keep DRL's (Daytime Running L

Whoa! I like the last outside picture with EVERYTHING ON! But... how did you get the Vibe to have both LOW and HIGH beams to light up at the same time!???? I'm really interested! Thanks! The Low & High beams on at the same time is a factory set-up - unlike most older cars when you switch from l...
by alex_nrv
Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:58 am
Forum: Tech Info & Do-It-Yourself Info
Topic: Auto Headlight Disable but Keep DRL's (Daytime Running Lights) 2009-2010 Mod!
Replies: 14
Views: 6315

Re: Auto Headlight Disable but Keep DRL's (Daytime Running L

Whoa! I like the last outside picture with EVERYTHING ON!
But... how did you get the Vibe to have both LOW and HIGH beams to light up at the same time!???? I'm really interested!
Thanks!
by alex_nrv
Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:26 am
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Disabling the DRL on 09 Vibe
Replies: 17
Views: 5233

Re: Disabling the DRL on 09 Vibe

I absolutely love having full control over all the lights. It's so nice being able to cruise with just the parking lights, parking lights and fog lights and best of all... having the fog lights stay on with the high beams :D! Hello Vibenvy and everyone else! Vibenvy, I tried sending you a PM (2 act...
by alex_nrv
Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:32 am
Forum: Problems & Warranty Issues
Topic: Check Engine + SensaTrac + VSC OFF *flashing*
Replies: 75
Views: 92966

Re: Check Engine + SensaTrac + VSC OFF *flashing*

I was looking at the "small" diagram that you posted in your previous post. The "post-cat H2OS" that you grased is the "#7" one? NOT the one in the blue square, right? Because like I reported from my codes, the H2OS error was about the "sensor 2, bank 1". Sens...
by alex_nrv
Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:33 pm
Forum: Interior
Topic: the vibe can haul........
Replies: 227
Views: 205019

Re: the vibe can haul........

deeg1 wrote:My poor Vibe. Its a work horse, not a show pony.
AMEN to that!
by alex_nrv
Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:14 pm
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT
Replies: 26
Views: 8027

Re: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT

I don't know much about the eletric systems of the Vibes, but here, it's been told the 2009+ needed a power wire running to the battery since the power was often not enough to power trailers. It probably is different for the 2004, so that's why the installation is straight forward and really easy. I...
by alex_nrv
Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:03 am
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT
Replies: 26
Views: 8027

Here's how I ran my power wire!

Here's my little step by step of how I ran the power wire from the driver's side compartment in the back of the car to the battery in the engine bay. First, easy enough, I removed the two trunk cargo panels and put them aside. Then, I removed the two silver bolts (10 mm?) from the left and right car...
by alex_nrv
Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:00 am
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT
Replies: 26
Views: 8027

Re: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT

I finally ran my wire from the back to the front.
I took pictures on my cell (bad-ish quality) at every steps.
I'll be writing a little tutorial on how I did it, and it will be posted soon enough (today)!
by alex_nrv
Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:11 pm
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT
Replies: 26
Views: 8027

Re: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT

Thanks for your input, Star!! I'll be checking out about how I will manage to run the wire under the carpet. I'll probably unsnap (?) the plastic trims (door steps) and see if I am able to pull the carpet a bit so I can run the wire there, and then resnap the plastic trim over it all. Then I'll see ...
by alex_nrv
Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:11 am
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT
Replies: 26
Views: 8027

Re: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT

Yeah, Star, I was asking myself the same! Can you give us a little "tutorialish" help for "where" and "how" you managed to run the wire under the carpet? I would also prefer to have it run inside the car, even though the wire I got is pretty large with a really thick en...
by alex_nrv
Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:02 pm
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT
Replies: 26
Views: 8027

Re:

Got my wiring kit at etrailer.com. Works great. I think Toyota cheaped out on the wiring for the vibe/matrix. This is the 1st car I've ever had to use the battery.http://www.etrailer.com/t1-2009_Pontiac_Vibe.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Thanks, Eric! I went online an...
by alex_nrv
Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:10 am
Forum: Exterior
Topic: Tongue weight of the Vibe 2009?
Replies: 12
Views: 3840

Re: Tongue weight of the Vibe 2009?

last weekend i had a heavy trailer, 1zz, 6speed tranny, and engine hoist....towed with my 03 GT without issue.....but the car had NO acceleration, lol. pulled on the highway for a 2h drive home Good to know, thanks! Do you think your load was below or above the 1,500 lbs safe rating? As for the acc...
by alex_nrv
Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:02 am
Forum: Interior
Topic: the vibe can haul........
Replies: 227
Views: 205019

Re: the vibe can haul........

Oh, I also forgot to tell about the time before. I went on a bicycle trip with my GF and my baby boy, in its baby trailer. I went at my father, but a rainstorm started, and we didn't planned anyways to go back home on our bikes. So I had to figure out how to bring the bikes and trailer back. I went ...
by alex_nrv
Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:41 am
Forum: Interior
Topic: the vibe can haul........
Replies: 227
Views: 205019

Re: the vibe can haul........

I should have taken a picture with my cell, but whatever. Today at work, we received (and had to move from the main building to my building) 22 laptops in their original boxes, plus 4 big boxes containing 5 laptop cases each, plus 2 cases out of the box, plus 4 boxes of mouses. The was me and my fri...
by alex_nrv
Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:59 am
Forum: Exterior
Topic: Tongue weight of the Vibe 2009?
Replies: 12
Views: 3840

Re: Tongue weight of the Vibe 2009?

Whoa thanks! This is good info to know! So as long I don't get over the 200 lbs tongue weiht maximum, I should be totally fine. In the worst case, I understand that if I tow at 200 lbs or heavier, it's mostly the hitch that will take the beating? For the total trailer weight, that's fine. I probably...
by alex_nrv
Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:34 pm
Forum: Exterior
Topic: Tongue weight of the Vibe 2009?
Replies: 12
Views: 3840

Re: Tongue weight of the Vibe 2009?

Page 9-78, under Weight of the Trailer How Heavy can a trailer safely be? It should never weigh more than 1500 lbs Oh, right!! Thx! So, basically, the Vibes could tow the maximum weight a trailer can safely load. So the maximum tongue weight would then really be between 150 and 225 lbs maximum. So ...
by alex_nrv
Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:38 pm
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT
Replies: 26
Views: 8027

Re: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT

I'll be interested in any answers as well. I've already go my hitch installed, but I still need to get the wiring hooked up. I thought the purpose of the module was so that it you had a short in your trailer wiring, it would not impact the normal tail light circuits but would trip the fuse that is ...
by alex_nrv
Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:03 pm
Forum: Exterior
Topic: Tongue weight of the Vibe 2009?
Replies: 12
Views: 3840

Re: Tongue weight of the Vibe 2009?

...you can get a *.PDF copy of the 2009 Vibe Owners Manual here: http://www.pontiac.com/owners/owner_resources/manuals.html ...and, section 9-72 explains how to 'calculate' maximum "tongue weight," which they state as being 10%-15% of maximum trailer weight, or between 150-225 lbs, maximu...
by alex_nrv
Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:11 am
Forum: Audio, Electronics, Electrical
Topic: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT
Replies: 26
Views: 8027

Re: Serius Antenna and Trailer wiring, 2009 Vibe GT

I am looking forward to install trailer wiring for plugging in a trailer. I checked the converter module from etrailer.com, and the specs are: 4.2 amp for tail lights and 2.1 per side for stop and turn signals. Weird enough... my cousin (who really knows his way through a car's electronics) called t...
by alex_nrv
Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:36 am
Forum: Exterior
Topic: Tongue weight of the Vibe 2009?
Replies: 12
Views: 3840

Tongue weight of the Vibe 2009?

Hello! I just got a hitch for my Vibe 2009, mostly to install my SportsRack bike rack, but also for when (rarely) I need to rent a trailer to move some bigger stuff the Vibe can't hold. Also, my father got a 16" boat with outboard 50 HP, and he doesn't have a hitch, so I might help him if he ev...
by alex_nrv
Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:58 am
Forum: Problems & Warranty Issues
Topic: Check Engine + SensaTrac + VSC OFF *flashing*
Replies: 75
Views: 92966

Re: Check Engine + SensaTrac + VSC OFF *flashing*

Yeah, thanks for the post! But on my side, it's not A/C related. It always/mostly happens when I leave in the morning, after a night of rain, or if it rains a lot during the day when my car is parked at work and I leave after work. My codes are indeed P0607 (Control Module) and P0138 (O2 Sensor). I ...
by alex_nrv
Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:13 pm
Forum: Interior
Topic: 2009 Vibe ->Little Storage Compartment on left side of steering? Part number?
Replies: 49
Views: 12848

Re: 2009 Vibe ->Little Storage Compartment on left side of s

Since you bought your Vibe used, I'm betting the previous owner just forgot about the ice scraper. The Vibe never came with one from the factory, so there isn't an OEM designated spot for one. Ok then, thanks! I won't hope for a spot where it could fit in anymore and will throw it away! For the siz...